Roe Intercooler

There is is a system made by DEI that is a cryo bulb that mounts inside your CAI inlet tube and can be set on a micro switch. It would chill the incoming air by as much as 60 degrees going into the throttle body. A 5lb bottle just last about a minute and a half under WOT.

I also found cylinders that could be welded up in the intake manifold and serve as an intercooler. They circulate water within the cylinder and the air flows around them getting chilled. This would work in conjunction with a heat exchanger, circulation pump and it's self contained water tank. The cylinders actually measure 1.55 inches in diameter. I would think we would be able to fit two or three of them inside the intake manifold. I found a company that is willing to try and make it work but obviously on somebody's nickel. Apparently, there is no significant amount of boost lost with this system since the air is circulating around the cylinders and not thru a core.

Lastly, I spoke with Sean in length this morning and he is quite confident the engine could be tuned running 14 or 15 lbs of boost with Methanol Injection. I just don't feel very comfortable putting that much W/M thru the engine.

So far, I like the idea of intercooled cylinders inside the intake manifold. This would basically require no maintenance and would have positive effects across the entire power band. It would also be very risk free since there is no finned core that could leak into the engine. All the necessary plumbing gets mounted externally.
 
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I am in the process of trying to figure this out myself for my build.:D I will be doing some mods to the plates for sure and maybe port the blower itself:dontknow: I don't think anybody yet has got over 700rwhp with the Roe yet:( The plates in the intake don't flow near enough:argh: I may do a small shot to help cool the intake temps but I'm not sure yet:dontknow:
 
My intake plates are ported, but Joe may just remove them and tune by cylinder. We are also planning a nice shot of N2O when at the track.
 
tinygiants said:
My intake plates are ported, but Joe may just remove them and tune by cylinder. We are also planning a nice shot of N2O when at the track.


Are you waiting on a pulley from Joe?:confused:

What cam did you go with in your build? Joe had said he's got some good blower cams to choose from:rock:
 
Tinygiants, do you have any dyno numbers yet? Who ported your heads? How much boost are you running? It seems we will have pretty similar builds.
 
kyle's srt10 said:
I am in the process of trying to figure this out myself for my build.:D I will be doing some mods to the plates for sure and maybe port the blower itself:dontknow: I don't think anybody yet has got over 700rwhp with the Roe yet:( The plates in the intake don't flow near enough:argh: I may do a small shot to help cool the intake temps but I'm not sure yet:dontknow:

Actually Tator claims 750, which is the absolute max on the Roe setup from what I understand:confused:
 
kyle's srt10 said:
I am in the process of trying to figure this out myself for my build.:D I will be doing some mods to the plates for sure and maybe port the blower itself:dontknow: I don't think anybody yet has got over 700rwhp with the Roe yet:( The plates in the intake don't flow near enough:argh: I may do a small shot to help cool the intake temps but I'm not sure yet:dontknow:

The Roe intake has better flow and distribution of air that the stocker and the stock intake has made over 1000 RWHP, so I don't think the intake is the hold back! IMO
 
I would be very cautious about fooling with the Roe intake.

There is some pretty sophisticated engineering in that piece of equipment. There is purpose in the porting and much more to the intake than just pushing an air fuel mix into cylinders.

Airflow is just one of the characteristics that has to be considered. Where that mixture ends up in the cylinder is critical and I believe that Sean has done some outstanding engineering in this area.

I will be very interested in what his new intake looks like...I'm not sure that he will be forthcoming about the changes, after all that is his intellectual property and he may well seek a patent...I have no inside information on this, and it is only my speculation...but messing with his design should only be undertaken by someone who really knows what they are doing.
 
Marc T said:
The Roe intake has better flow and distribution of air that the stocker and the stock intake has made over 1000 RWHP, so I don't think the intake is the hold back! IMO


Everyone I have spoke with on this issue points to intake design;) These blowers were designed to work on a stock truck. If your truck is stock and you keep it that way then this setup is perfect:rock: When you start trying to do major mods and up the boost the hp #'s just aren't there:dontknow:

The air distribution is great on the blower! It's just not near enough when you start doing major mods;) Have you looked at the size of the slots on the plates:dontknow:

Again I am just going off of what I have been told:p If I can get 700-750rwhp outta mine after my build I will be happy:D I just don't want to have a strong engine and no more hp to boot:(
 
Add 2 turbos to feed the Roe, intercool before the Roe. Best of both worlds. Water Ice intercooler, chilled by additional AC evap lines from the trucks compressor.
 
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Marty, I've actually seen a turbo feeding the supercharger of a Ford GT. I believe it was posted here once. How would that work?

As far as the intake slots, they definitely need to be opened up. I would not remove the diverter plates as this would only pressurize the intake causing the air to tumble and cavitate with no direction.
 
That car had turbos only and made 1000rw but only 300-400 at 3000rpm, after adding the blower back on, it made roughly the same at peak but 800+ at 3000 rpm!
Two turbos would feed a Ice intercooler/AC chilled intercooler, then plumb to the intake of the Roe.
 
Sounds like it would be an interesting build but I'd rather see what I can max out of the Roe and then go from there.
 

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