Scary stuff

[Fepony]

I think this forum is liberal enough for me to post this here. I am not bashing the religion Jehovah Witnesses but these rules are disturbing me. Some of the rules are ridiculous. I feel sorry for kids whom grow up this this religion/society. I think this is more a cult than religion in my opinion.

WTF is with #62 and #72?

Of all items listed, only three have been discontinued. (marked with an asterisk) All are listed, however, to show the absurdity of Watchtower authority and the absolute control leadership has over the lives of members once they join.

1. Jehovah God is not a Trinity
2. The doctrine of the Trinity is inspired by Satan
3. Jesus Christ is a created being, who at one time did not exist (a.k.a.Michael the archangel)
4. The Holy Spirit is not a person but is "God's active force" i.e. gravity, electricity etc.
5. Heaven is only for select Jehovah's Witnesses
6. Heaven is limited only to 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses
7. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only true Christians
8. There is no Hell (It is simply the grave)
9. There is no life after death (except for the 144,000)
10. Salvation is by good works not by Grace
11. You cannot be sure of salvation
12. Jesus is not to be worshiped or prayed to
13. Jesus did not rise from the dead bodily but as a spirit being
14. You are discouraged from attending college
15. The "first resurrection" occurred in 1918
16. All pastors are the "Antichrist"
17. All churches are of Satan
18. All governments are controlled by Satan
19. You cannot take a blood transfusion
20. You cannot be a police officer
21. You cannot salute the flag, stand for the national anthem, or own a flag
22. You cannot serve in the military
23. You cannot buy girl Scout cookies
24. You must attend five meetings per week
25. Jesus'second coming occurred in 1914 (only known to Jehovah's Witnesses)
26. You cannot marry a non-Jehovah's Witness
27. If one does not follow the rules of the Watchtower they will be shunned
28. You cannot read Christian literature from a Christian book store
29. You cannot be a cheerleader
30. You cannot celebrate any holidays (Christmas, Easter, etc.)
31. You cannot celebrate your birthday
32. You cannot run for or hold a political office
33. You cannot vote in any political campaign
34. You cannot serve on a jury
35. You are discouraged from giving to charity (except Watchtower causes)
36. You cannot speak to former members who are shunned (disfellowshipped)
37. You cannot accept Christmas gifts
38. You must read and study Watchtower literature regularly
39. Only Jehovah's Witnesses can understand the Bible
40. Angels direct the Watchtower organization
41. Jesus did not die on a cross but an upright pole
42. You cannot own or wear a cross
43. You must report your witnessing activity to the elders
44. You must go from door to door weekly to gain converts
45. You cannot have friends who are not Jehovah's Witnesses
46. You must refer to all Jehovah's Witnesses as "brother" or "sister"
47. You cannot play chess*
48. You cannot understand the Bible without Watchtower literature to explain it
49. A child abuser is reported to Watchtower elders and not the police
50. You must forgo vacations to attend annual conventions
51. You are discouraged from buying a two door car-A "Theocratic" or "spiritually strong" Jehovah's Witness will have a full size car for the door to door work
52. Men cannot wear beards
53. Men must wear short hair
54. Women cannot pray in the presence of men without a hat
55. You cannot have a tattoo
56. You forbidden to use any tobacco products
57. Only officially approved sexual practices are allowed in marriage
58. You must appear before a Judicial committee if you are caught breaking Watchtower rules (Secret files are kept on all members which record these meetings-these files are kept in New York and are never destroyed)
59. You must not own wind-chimes (they are for chasing away evil spirits)*
60. You cannot read any anti-Jehovah's Witness material
61. You cannot use pet foods made with blood or blood products
62. You cannot join any clubs or sports teams
63. You cannot wear jade jewelry*
64. You cannot purchase Christian products (books, music, plaques, pictures etc.)
65. You cannot wear any Christian jewelry
66. Jehovah's Witness meeting places have no windows
67. If you see another Jehovah's Witness breaking the rules you must turn them in to the elders to be interrogated
68. Jesus could have sinned and failed in his mission
69. Jesus was not born the savior but became the savior at his baptism
70. The Watchtower organization is God's prophet on earth today
71. Women must submit to Watchtower elders
72. You cannot support your country
73. One must study Watchtower books at least six months before he can be baptized
74. Before baptism, one must answer over 80 questions in front of a panel of elders
75. Most of The Book of Revelation applies to the Jehovah's Witnesses
76. You cannot celebrate Mothers or Fathers day (it may produce pride)
77. Kingdom Halls cannot have pews for seating
78. JWs are are fobidden to say "good luck"
79. God is not omniscient "all knowing"
80. God is not omnipresent
81. God only speaks through the "Governing Body" in Brooklyn, New York
82. The Holy Spirit is only for select Jehovah's Witnesses
83. The Lord's supper is only to be eaten by select Jehovah's Witnesses (144,000 group-99.99% of Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden from taking the Lord's supper)
84. The Lord's supper can only be offered once per year
85. JWs in times of crisis, are strongly discouraged from consulting with family counselors, including mental health professionals who are not Jehovah's Witnesses
86. Only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon
87. If you have a non-Witness spouse your first loyalty is to the elders over your spouse
88. Jesus was equal to Adam (just a man)
89. Judgment day is 1000 years long
90. If you leave Jehovah's Witnesses or are expelled from the organization you will not be resurrected
91. Only Jehovah's Witness prayers are heard by God
92. Man's salvation is secondary in God's plan; Jesus was sent to "vindicate Jehovah's name"
93. God will destroy all non-Jehovah's Witnesses at armageddon
94. You forbidden to say "God bless you" when someone sneezes.
95. You must never enter a church building
96. You must never attend a church service
97. You cannot be involved in martial arts, boxing or wrestling
98. You cannot participate in a school play
99. You cannot donate blood or your organs when you die
100. You can never question what is printed in Watchtower literature
10l. You are forbidden to attend a funeral of an ex-Jehovah's Witness

 

[belgiumbarry]

Jehovah's witness ? :dontknow: sorry , i didn't see the accident.

 

[SrtBrad]

Not for me but I'm sure someone will take it seriously.:dontknow:

 

[Marc T]

Damn, 144000 only!!

I am sure that all those spots have been taken, so what does that leave us?? :dontknow:

I like #23, no girl scout cookies??

 

[ntw0rk]

My wife is a JW. That alone should tell you something about this list.

She says that most of these "rules" are taken out of context, some are left as a personal choice, and there are several that she has never even heard!

It's funny to me how people (And I am NOT directing this at anyone) always think the worst of things that they don't know much about. And, if those things appear to be shrouded in secrecy, or go against what they know, it's always worse!

Being a Witness is still a choice. Some people like it, and some don't. How far you go with these "rules" is a choice, the same way that the "rules" set forth by Catholocism are choices to some extent.

I just recently learned that my aunt and cousin have converted to JW. I guess my Grandmother is PISSED! She raised her daughter to be Protestant DAMNIT!! Hehehe... I kind of get a chuckle out of it!!

To each his own!


My wife has only asked me once if I would consider converting, I said no, and neither her, nor her mother have bothered me about it since!

 

[Brat]

My wife is a JW. That alone should tell you something about this list.

She says that most of these "rules" are taken out of context, some are left as a personal choice, and there are several that she has never even heard!

It's funny to me how people (And I am NOT directing this at anyone) always think the worst of things that they don't know much about. And, if those things appear to be shrouded in secrecy, or go against what they know, it's always worse!

Being a Witness is still a choice. Some people like it, and some don't. How far you go with these "rules" is a choice, the same way that the "rules" set forth by Catholocism are choices to some extent.

I just recently learned that my aunt and cousin have converted to JW. I guess my Grandmother is PISSED! She raised her daughter to be Protestant DAMNIT!! Hehehe... I kind of get a chuckle out of it!!

To each his own!


My wife has only asked me once if I would consider converting, I said no, and neither her, nor her mother have bothered me about it since!

very well said Scott,some people mistrust what they dont understand.:rock:

 

[GILMO'S10]

Hey to each his own.Just dont knock on my door and try to jam your religon down my throat.Most of the time They are happy with no thankyou and please move on your way.What a long list of chit!

 

[ntw0rk]

 

[Silverback]

I sure hope this does not turn into a religion pissing match.

 

[ntw0rk]

If it does, I apologize in advance. That is definitely not MY intention, and I don't believe it was fepony's either.

I was merely showing a little different POV, if you will.

 

[SilvrSRT10]

Does #71 mean what I think it means?

 

[HOT RAM]

the Bible says "Study to show thyself approved unto God...rightly dividing the Word of Truth."
Unless you read it for yourself,you can be told that it says anything.

There is only ONE rule we need to keep "Love the Lord with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself"

 

[BurntRubber]

144,000...most likely full at this point So no need to follow the rules. What the heck no thin mints or samoas (sp) even Jesus would tell these mofo's to get lost

 

[Fepony]

If it does, I apologize in advance. That is definitely not MY intention, and I don't believe it was fepony's either.

I was merely showing a little different POV, if you will.

Agreed. I just thought it would be safe posting that here since they can't belong to clubs. :star: :vroam:

 

[Deibs]

Ahhhh dammit that's classic.. :elefant:

 

[Django]

Obviously, I have much to say on this subject.......

I'll try and be brief.........

Many of the above mentioned precepts have nothing (at all) to do with do's and dont's... So, to say it's a loosely applied rulebook is a bit of a simplification....

The assertion that only 144,000 people will see the afterlife in God's presence... and to assert that the aforementioned group is made up of only Jdubs is rather specious in itself. Afterall, the Biblical context of their "144,000" quote is actually made up of 12,000 members of each of the original 12 tribes of Israel.... Even if the Jdubs could somehow resolve that issue (which they cannot) they would still have a very tuff time assembling a valid scripture argument to back it up.

When I was in my 20's and 30's (my yogi/guru era) and the Jdubs came to my door, I'd answer it buck naked with a joint in my mouth....naked as the day I was born.... "OH HI....!!" I'd say cheerfully..... "Please excuse my appearance, but I was just in bed with my lady"....... "What can I do for ya...?".... "Oh Lordy.....! Are you Jehovahs Witnesses...?".... "I love you guys..... Come on in...! There's a passage of Scripture that I've been saving for just this occasion..... Hey...! Where ya goin'....!? ... hey...!! Come back...!!! I just got a new cappacino machine....!!!!"

But, back here in the new millenium, people are becoming more and more burned out on religions of every ilk..... They're fraught with rules and regs ...sticks and statues, icons and elders.... It's just becaoming more and more clear that anyone who wants to have a real relationship with their Creator will have to find IT on their own..... Perhaps in fear, trembling, trial and error.....

The modern day followers of Charles Taze Russell (JW) are seeking Him the best way they know how.... There's good ones and bad ones... They always had too many don'ts for my liking....

God bless us all...........

"Love God and one another"......................Namaste'

D

 

[Prof]

Different Stokes...for different folks...

I listen to the JW door knockers and tell them I am not Christian and they seem to respect my space, which I appreciate.

Where did you get the list from? I did not see any attribution...

 

[mopower1958]

Any one who reads the Bible knows that rules #1,2 & 3 make it a cult.

 

[Black1]

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When I was in my 20's and 30's (my yogi/guru era) and the Jdubs came to my door, I'd answer it buck naked with a joint in my mouth....naked as the day I was born.... "OH HI....!!" I'd say cheerfully..... "Please excuse my appearance, but I was just in bed with my lady"....... "What can I do for ya...?".... "Oh Lordy.....! Are you Jehovahs Witnesses...?".... "I love you guys..... Come on in...! There's a passage of Scripture that I've been saving for just this occasion..... Hey...! Where ya goin'....!? ... hey...!! Come back...!!! I just got a new cappacino machine....!!!!"

.......................Namaste'

D

:rofl: .......... That's almost as funny as that "Namibian Jungle Pussy" comment (or whatever the fu*k it was ) :rofl:

 

[ntw0rk]

Living with a JW means they don't come knocking on my door!!!