STOCK TIMING VALUES!

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

Basically what I was pointing out is when KC put it on the dyno, the numbers were all over the place with a severe drop at one point, and most of the numbers were lower than stock at times, bbasically that the previous tune was not working very well.

 

[RedRamRules]

Stinker you ever reach a final dyno number yet, or are you still adjusting/tuning?

 

[Bone]

Basically what I was pointing out is when KC put it on the dyno, the numbers were all over the place with a severe drop at one point, and most of the numbers were lower than stock at times, bbasically that the previous tune was not working very well.

Sounds bad and that was a stock ECM?

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

Na , waiting on a spot in line at the underground to get the fuel system done right, its runningout of fuel at this point.

Oh and Bone that was the tune it had when I picked it up from tx, and it was with a Vec II.

 

[mopar_mudder]

No, I only have the stock mopar and Boomer's (B&G) for flashes. You are welcome to buy it, break it down, and then post it on here for us!

I do have the Mopar Performance ECM, but not the right equipment to read the timming out of it or I would sure be willing to do that. Also I belive that the timing changes with the operating temp. Were your readings all done at normal operating temp.

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

Mopar Mudder I have a question for both of you, when I was discussin thing with KC he explained a few of the things with the vipers, but anyway our temps read high in which the ecm reads those temps. Different parts of the block read different temps, instead of playing with the iat , why not place the engine ecm temp sensor in a better place that gives a truere reading?

 

[RedRamRules]

Im sure that the best location would be at the top of the block, closer to the location of a cylinder. No idea where it is currently placed. The location with the most friction would be the best estimator of engine temperature. My two cents.

 

[Bone]

I do have the Mopar Performance ECM, but not the right equipment to read the timming out of it or I would sure be willing to do that. Also I belive that the timing changes with the operating temp. Were your readings all done at normal operating temp.

The dyno SAE correction was 1.01 on a Dynoflow, so it was as close as I would probably be able to get doing it. NBT was there also when it was done.

 

[mopar_mudder]

Well generally the temp is read right where the water hits the thermostat, that is the best place to get the overal average temp of the engine. If you wanted to fool it into thinking it was cooler, the coolest place is going to be the exit of the radiator. Don't know how safe or smart that would be to do......

 

[mopar_mudder]

The dyno SAE correction was 1.01 on a Dynoflow, so it was as close as I would probably be able to get doing it. NBT was there also when it was done.

Dyno correction has to do with the air temp and pressure. I was refering to the actual engine temperature, you will get a higher dyno reading from a cold engine then a hot one. The timming changes with the engine temp.

 

[Bone]

Dyno correction has to do with the air temp and pressure. I was refering to the actual engine temperature, you will get a higher dyno reading from a cold engine then a hot one. The timming changes with the engine temp.

Wasn't watching the eng temp, but I'm sure it was between 172-195. A big fan was on it, cool day, and plenty of time in between runs. I just don't have the info you are looking for...

Do you think your eng temp changed your timing from 30 to 14 at 3000 rpm?

 

[NBT]

The dyno SAE correction was 1.01 on a Dynoflow, so it was as close as I would probably be able to get doing it. NBT was there also when it was done.

Your going to drag me into this????

Not saying a ping... :driver: :dontknow:

 

[Bone]

Not saying a ping... :driver: :dontknow:

Hint, hint...