Turbo or charger

[Hatedonmostly]

Is there any kit's that are safe for stock internals.

 

[SANTEEN]

I'll let the experts chime in. But, I think the centrifigal superchargers are pretty safe as long as you have a conservative tune and stay with stock boost. The problem most have, is they want more and end up changing pullies for more boost. And then KABOOM!!!

 

[GADodgetech]

Toro is gonna make one :rock: :rock: :rock:

 

[LoveThisTruck]

Is there any kit's that are safe for stock internals.

Nope, not really

 

[yellowfever#154]

No there isnt. Forge it first.

 

[Brat]

No there isnt. Forge it first.

Got that right.:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:

 

[viperhauler]

why did you write turbo or charger???:dontknow:

they're both chargers...

 

[Dom426]

88MM T6 Turbo
Shorty Headers
All Turbo Piping including air filter and high torque/T-bolt clamps
Tial BOV and Wastegate (with appropriate spring for boost level)
VEC3 Engine Management
Full Fuel system good for 1100+ WHP including new injectors, pumps, regulator, filter, and lines.
Full 5" high temp powdercoated exhaust system with rear exit in stock location
Water Injection
All Exhaust parts except catback are 1700 degree Jet-Hot Coated
All Turbo piping powdercoated in your color choice
Upper and lower radiator pipe set (required for clearance)
Stainless Steel Braided Oil Feed and Return lines
Heat Protection on all parts near turbo piping
All Gaskets/Fluids
Full Install
Dyno tune
EVERYTHING included to bolt onto a completely stock truck and make over 700WHP on 7-8 psi. Do a mild motor build and turn it up even more!!! $14,995

Upgrade Options:

Front mount intercooler setup
-Enormous 1500+ CFM polished intercooler
-Turbo Piping from turbo and to throttle body with powdercoat
-Recommended for higher boost applications
-$1795

Air Box Filter Setup
-Powdercoated airbox in stock battery location
-Cold air inlet pipe from under front fascia
-Rear battery mount package
-Powdercoated 6" Cold Air tube with monster K+N filter
$795

Boost Controller
-Multiple setups available depending on customers needs
-Typical manual boost controller setup is in the $100 range, typical electronic in cabin setup ranges from $300-700 plus install.

Beyond 1100 WHP fuel system and turbo upgrades available as well

Guages, Dress Up Items, Engine Powdercoating, etc.

Obviously if you have a VEC3, water injection, etc. cost would be less.

Compare to a typical paxton setup done correctly:
Paxton kit, water injection, VEC3, fuel injectors, bigger heat exhanger, airbox, headers, mids, full exhaust, dyno tune, and install, and the prices are very similar. Unlike a supercharger you have the ability to turn it up anytime on the fly as long as your motor and gasoline are capable. Compare the WHP and especially the WTQ numbers below to supercharger setups and decide for yourself. Turbo lag is not an issue here, full boost comes on very quickly and is made at much lower RPM than a centrifugal supercharger.

Obviously 505's truck was very recently finished with the full tilt package on a stock engine with only upgraded pistons/rods/mopar camshaft. Here are the #'s we got from his package on a conservative timing curve and 11.5-12.0 A/F ratio. There is more there for sure, the turbo has another 150+ WHP in it before it starts to become inefficient.

PSI WHP WTQ Gasoline
Base 443 481 Pump
5.5-6 658 767 Pump
7.5-8 719 827 Pump
9.5 760 875 Pump
11.5 815 917 Pump
14-15 921 996 Pump
17.5 1079 1100 Race

http://www.vtcoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17230

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

nope sorry dont think so

eventually theyy will let go

 

[Smokey]

is that all your puttin out dom? whats the specs on the 88? im gunna need a top charger here soon

 

[viperhauler]

dom's is a 98mm

and he's puttin out in his sig...

 

[Scrambler1]

In my opinion you can run a Paxton with a fairly conservative tune, keep it around 600 at the tires or less and last a long time. Start trying to max the tune out or add nitrous on top of that and you're going boom on stock internals. My first Paxton setup lasted 25k miles at 600hp. I did some other mods and got aggressive with the tune and the engine was toast in a few thousand miles. Cracked ring lands on every piston, every single one.

Big power, go turbo. 700hp you can run a single turbo or a supercharger but plan on at least aftermarket rods and pistons for that level. Gotta pay to play.

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

In my opinion you can run a Paxton with a fairly conservative tune, keep it around 600 at the tires or less and last a long time. Start trying to max the tune out or add nitrous on top of that and you're going boom on stock internals. My first Paxton setup lasted 25k miles at 600hp. I did some other mods and got aggressive with the tune and the engine was toast in a few thousand miles. Cracked ring lands on every piston, every single one.

Big power, go turbo. 700hp you can run a single turbo or a supercharger but plan on at least aftermarket rods and pistons for that level. Gotta pay to play.

I agree Joe, but only one problem with that and thats why I say nope

nobody is EVER happy with what they end up with ,, they allways want more

 

[Scrambler1]

I agree Joe, but only one problem with that and thats why I say nope

nobody is EVER happy with what they end up with ,, they allways want more

Dude you know that I'm the poster child for that!! You already know about my latest plans... and you didn't even try to talk me out of it you ass! :burnout:

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

Dude you know that I'm the poster child for that!! You already know about my latest plans... and you didn't even try to talk me out of it you ass! :burnout:

hehehehehehehehehe

 

[RedSrt007]

In my opinion you can run a Paxton with a fairly conservative tune, keep it around 600 at the tires or less and last a long time. Start trying to max the tune out or add nitrous on top of that and you're going boom on stock internals. My first Paxton setup lasted 25k miles at 600hp. I did some other mods and got aggressive with the tune and the engine was toast in a few thousand miles. Cracked ring lands on every piston, every single one.

Big power, go turbo. 700hp you can run a single turbo or a supercharger but plan on at least aftermarket rods and pistons for that level. Gotta pay to play.

Exactly :congrats:

 

[358ciHD]

Going to be one in the very very near future

 

[linemup]

I agree Joe, but only one problem with that and thats why I say nope

nobody is EVER happy with what they end up with ,, they allways want more

:congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :burnout:

 

[TNVIPER]

I agree Joe, but only one problem with that and thats why I say nope

nobody is EVER happy with what they end up with ,, they allways want more

That is because "mod pushers" like you keep coming up with great little deals....LOL.......BTW I got the boost juice today...:rock:

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[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

That is because "mod pushers" like you keep coming up with great little deals....LOL.......BTW I got the boost juice today...:rock:

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:rock: :rock: :rock: