2 cats or no cats

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i was wondering i wanna take off at least two of the cats or maybe all 4.what would be better and if i take off just 2 will i still pass emissions and will it make the truck sound better
 
I've got the 2 front cats left and it has an awesome tone..I almost think it would be too raspy if all 4 were gone.
 
A lot depends on what you want...what kind of emissions tests are conducted in your state, and what your individual taste is.

There are ways around the OBDII emissions check. If there is a sniff test you have a tougher time.

Aside from the emissions issues...if you want maximum power both need to go. You need to go to headers, three inch mid pipes and a muffler to suit your ear.

First check what kind of emissions test you have in Wisconsin...then we can go from there in helping you.

Roy
 
Just drop the rear two. They are pretty restrictive and easiest to deal with. They are not monitored so no O2 sensor problems. Only cost about $50 to do. So I hear since I would never mess with the emissions system.:eek:
 
Prof said:
A lot depends on what you want...what kind of emissions tests are conducted in your state, and what your individual taste is.

There are ways around the OBDII emissions check. If there is a sniff test you have a tougher time.

Aside from the emissions issues...if you want maximum power both need to go. You need to go to headers, three inch mid pipes and a muffler to suit your ear.

First check what kind of emissions test you have in Wisconsin...then we can go from there in helping you.

Roy

Agreed....

But in California, my plan was simply to cut them all out.... Then weld them back in on emissions check day....

Having all 4 gone did NOT make it raspy at all. With the Borla it was the automotive equivilant of the New York Philharmonic Orchestra.

D
 
quadster2005 said:
if the rear 2 are off, with a new muffler, would I pass emissions in cali?

It depends on the test station.....

I think it may throw a code for no O2 sensors in the rear on the OBDII prong, not sure....

But it's more likely that it may not pass the tailpipe sniffer test.... Hard to say...

I'd find a smog station that's associated with a performance shop.... :rolleyes:

TNVIPER said:
remove the stock mids with all 4 so you can put em back when test time comes...

Thats what I'd do...

D
 
quadster2005 said:
if the rear 2 are off, with a new muffler, would I pass emissions in cali?


I don't see why not. The sensors are only on the front 2. So if they just plug into your ODB then it will read normal. A sniff test might be different but you still have 2 cats working so I would guess you would pass no matter what. But I don't know for sure.
 
Django said:
It depends on the test station.....

I think it may throw a code for no O2 sensors in the rear on the OBDII prong, not sure....


No sensors on the rear cats.
 
i deleted the rear two, the resonator and muffler. i have a magnaflow muffler and it sounds awesome. I lucked out so no emissions in fl where im from or in SC where i used to live and now in AZ.
 
If you delete the rear two cats, and use sims on your sensors the sniff test should be cool, the OBDII test will pass since you are not throwing a code...but, if they do a visual and are real sharp they will note that you have deleted two of the cats (only the sharpest will detect that). And I believe in California, it is a class II felony to alter your emission control system on any vehicle. What are the chances of getting caught...who knows...but it can be a "go to jail" offense...California is not very understanding on these emission issues for us hot rodders.

So if you are going to risk a felony...just get rid of all the cats...and put them back on for emission testing.
 
Prof said:
If you delete the rear two cats, and use sims on your sensors the sniff test should be cool, the OBDII test will pass since you are not throwing a code....


No need for sims if he only deletes the rear cats.
 
I agree, all 4. My Billy Boat catless mids are great. Talking with 3 or 4 different employees at B&B said that their catless pipes are no louder than the hi-flow pipes. I found that hard to believe, hence the reason I called back 4 times lol. It's a nice sound, noting in your face and real grunty @ WOT which is the way it should be IMO.


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