yellowfever#154
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Did you achieve 5-7 lbs before or after this stroker build.
Build page stroked 545 w/paxton
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Did you achieve 5-7 lbs before or after this stroker build.
because its not allways about the numbers, but what a customer wants, we got a customer out west that has a procharger and a paxton, and likes both of them, we jsut finished sending him some parts for his fuel system upgrade,
the guy I am picking up this weekend, I told him if he wanted a procharger, we would slap one on his in place of his current set up, but he wnats to stay where he is, like the roe, its all in what a person wants in the end, and alot of time they really could care less about being the big dog:elefant:
the guy I am picking up this weekend, I told him if he wanted a procharger, we would slap one on his in place of his current set up, but he wnats to stay where he is, like the roe, its all in what a person wants in the end, and alot of time they really could care less about being the big dog:elefant:
yellowfever#154
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I said nothing about being a big dog Tony. Lay out the facts of all three systems on the table and then decide what system is better.
Why run a Paxton to the fricken max, building nothing but heat, when you can run a Procharger with ease?
The Paxton does not have a dedicated belt, nor has anyone (that I know of) built a dedicated drive. The Procharger does have a dedicated belt and a optional cog belt.
The Paxton fuel upgrades are a patch fix for a already lacking system. Justin's fuel system for the Procharger has been proven to 1500hp on Doms truck.
The Paxton com with a small intercooler, The Procharger has a massive intercooler.
The Paxton is ugly as shit, the Procharger is art work.
Sure the Procharger is a BIG badass blower, but with the right pulley combo it can be very tame. They two systems are even similar dollars.
Why run a Paxton to the fricken max, building nothing but heat, when you can run a Procharger with ease?
The Paxton does not have a dedicated belt, nor has anyone (that I know of) built a dedicated drive. The Procharger does have a dedicated belt and a optional cog belt.
The Paxton fuel upgrades are a patch fix for a already lacking system. Justin's fuel system for the Procharger has been proven to 1500hp on Doms truck.
The Paxton com with a small intercooler, The Procharger has a massive intercooler.
The Paxton is ugly as shit, the Procharger is art work.
Sure the Procharger is a BIG badass blower, but with the right pulley combo it can be very tame. They two systems are even similar dollars.
Tonkasmith
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When I spoke with the builder he said 6.5 (I got 5-7) off website bit that was after the full tune.
ARRESTmeRed04
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you know i agree with you on almost everything about that(i don't think they're ugly:dontknow
but one MAJOR thing the paxton has going for it is proven track results, none of the procharger trucks have ran the numbers yet. that being said, IF i had the money to get one of the two i'd go with the procharger because it does look better and a cog drive belt is just plain badass:drool:
Thats not true. Chubby had port work on his heads and a mild cam. He had no problem producing 12lbs.
Im not arguing that fstjack and ramfromhell, didnt have the problem. But maybe there was something weird going on with their motors. Shit, I've seen Paxton produce 14lbs on a viper car. Not sure if there was port work or not. But I know Chubby for sure had it.
What?!?!?!? Bobby is already there, with over 700 wheel and my truck is on it's way. Talk what you know Vlad, or stay on the porch with the little boys.
For one, I already have the Paxton and so does the OP, so aint about to drop more coin on that. Two, you still need the fuel system upgrade with the Procharger, so I dont inderstand that comment. Three, I'm just looking for around 700wheel, so I probably wont touch the heads. And you and I have gone over this before, the Paxtons have proved them selves on our trucks the Prochargers havent. Four guys running the system, is not proving it. And running 12's, really ain't proving it. Until you show me better times, and I truely hope you do, the Paxtons have proven themselves capable of 11's and 10's(with the help of spray). I believe, if anyone, you'll actually put that bitch on the track and run it hard. Make me proud.
Stop all the talking Steve and just build yours and show em im with you on the paxton, its proven so do it. If you have a ton of coin to put in it buy a pro charger and do some R&D and you might end up with a nasty build. If not go with whats proven and tear em up at the track.....see ya in Panama :burnout:
im with you on the paxton, its proven so do it. If you have a ton of coin to put in it buy a pro charger and do some R&D and you might end up with a nasty build. If not go with whats proven and tear em up at the track.....see ya in Panama :burnout:
Stop all the talking Steve and just build yours and show em
you know im coming after that black turd
ok waking to such lovely pms an text messages LOL
one boss still it comes down to what folks think and want and can spend
and on another note, my shop has a rule, what goes on there stays there, so if a customer does not want anything revealed , it will not be, ask fl06srt, that was the one thing he was asked when his truck was dropped off, so really most have no idea what has gone on in the past year
bu guys do some homework, before you and your lovely littel buddys go trapsin over to all kinds of forums trying to once again push my buttons will ya?
I looked at tonkas build , i really have a hard time beliving he is even close to a 545,
you can stroke the viper to a 522, but to get it to a 545 you jsut about have to sleeve the engine,
not saying its not a 545, because some of the build sheet is kinda vague to say the least, but no mention of sleeving
fstjack to get to a 540 was sleeved, his build was almost 40k,
i just love how some just hunt reasons to be a bitch, LOL
but sorry fellas my easy button is broke, now I got plenty of work to do, so ya'll enjoy yourself, I really thought maybe I could start contributing again, but I see as venemous and a few others have said
I really dont know shit about a viper engine, and ya'll cant get someone in here anyday anytime to do what I do ,
one boss still it comes down to what folks think and want and can spend
and on another note, my shop has a rule, what goes on there stays there, so if a customer does not want anything revealed , it will not be, ask fl06srt, that was the one thing he was asked when his truck was dropped off, so really most have no idea what has gone on in the past year
bu guys do some homework, before you and your lovely littel buddys go trapsin over to all kinds of forums trying to once again push my buttons will ya?
I looked at tonkas build , i really have a hard time beliving he is even close to a 545,
you can stroke the viper to a 522, but to get it to a 545 you jsut about have to sleeve the engine,
not saying its not a 545, because some of the build sheet is kinda vague to say the least, but no mention of sleeving
fstjack to get to a 540 was sleeved, his build was almost 40k,
i just love how some just hunt reasons to be a bitch, LOL
but sorry fellas my easy button is broke, now I got plenty of work to do, so ya'll enjoy yourself, I really thought maybe I could start contributing again, but I see as venemous and a few others have said
I really dont know shit about a viper engine, and ya'll cant get someone in here anyday anytime to do what I do ,
yellowfever#154
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Proven? Proven belt problems, ya. Proven fails on big builds, ya.
Procharger costs so much money? How much does a Paxton cost? I bet more than what the base Procharger kit costs! You guys just wait until I can get my shit to the track, Ill get ya some track times.
The only people that continue to reply and pound in peoples heads that the Paxton is the best are the guys that have them and cant admit there is a better option out there.
If I was Tonka at this time I wouldnt change over either, as after talking to him in PM I now understand this truck is already built with all these specs and he just wants to improve it.
To clarify the fuel system upgrade comment, the Paxton comes with a cheap fix for the fuel system. The Procharger comes with a real fuel system, front to back.
Tony, quit whining about people saying you dont know what you are doing. Get out there and show us. Your on a forum and will be criticized until you prove it, so far this has not been done. You talk about all this secret shit, get out there and finish the non-secret shit and show us.
Procharger costs so much money? How much does a Paxton cost? I bet more than what the base Procharger kit costs! You guys just wait until I can get my shit to the track, Ill get ya some track times.
The only people that continue to reply and pound in peoples heads that the Paxton is the best are the guys that have them and cant admit there is a better option out there.
If I was Tonka at this time I wouldnt change over either, as after talking to him in PM I now understand this truck is already built with all these specs and he just wants to improve it.
To clarify the fuel system upgrade comment, the Paxton comes with a cheap fix for the fuel system. The Procharger comes with a real fuel system, front to back.
Tony, quit whining about people saying you dont know what you are doing. Get out there and show us. Your on a forum and will be criticized until you prove it, so far this has not been done. You talk about all this secret shit, get out there and finish the non-secret shit and show us.
yellowfever#154
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WTF is this about? Im the only person on this thread that Im sure you have directed most of this to and I dont understand it.
VENOMOUS1 RACING
Has Left the Room - Banned from VTCOA!
What the F*CK? You need to learn how to f*ckin spell or they don't teach that in the hills? No reason to bring my name up in this conversation as I haven't bashed you in some time. You still haven't showed me any different on this forum or on the track, but ask anyone and they'll tell you I give you credit for digging in with both hands and doing the R&D on customers trucks.
Proven? Proven belt problems, ya. Proven fails on big builds, ya.
Procharger costs so much money? How much does a Paxton cost? I bet more than what the base Procharger kit costs! You guys just wait until I can get my shit to the track, Ill get ya some track times.
The only people that continue to reply and pound in peoples heads that the Paxton is the best are the guys that have them and cant admit there is a better option out there.
If I was Tonka at this time I wouldnt change over either, as after talking to him in PM I now understand this truck is already built with all these specs and he just wants to improve it.
To clarify the fuel system upgrade comment, the Paxton comes with a cheap fix for the fuel system. The Procharger comes with a real fuel system, front to back.
Tony, quit whining about people saying you dont know what you are doing. Get out there and show us. Your on a forum and will be criticized until you prove it, so far this has not been done. You talk about all this secret shit, get out there and finish the non-secret shit and show us.[/QUOTE]
AMEN!
I have no belt slippage issues, bobby at 12lbs has no belt slippage issues, chubby had no belt slippage issues at 12lbs. I bought my kit used, so yeah it was a lot cheaper. Find me a used procharger kit for our trucks, for around 3k and I'll gladly switch. So far only two guys, with similar builds, have had Paxton issues. You just cant blame the paxtons for that. Maybe it was a crazy port job, maybe the cam specs were not right for a Paxton. Two guys, find me some more will ya? And again, I hope ur right, and u can prove something. Cuz right now, 3 or 4 Procharger trucks, making 900 wheel and running 12's on slicks, dont prove shit. Bottom line. When u got some track numbers, post back up. Cux at 900 wheel, I expect you to be in the 10's. :dontknow: Agreed?
Wow, lots of hostility on this thread.
YellowFever - FYI there are a few guys out there running dedicated belt drives on theirs Paxtons in case you didn't know. And the Paxtons with these belt drives are very capable of producing 14-16 psi.
You can't compare the Paxton kit and Procharger kit. One is massed produced by a large company and the other is produced in very limited quanities by a small company. Which unit is best? Its all based on the individuals wants and needs.
Power - both units provide very similar numbers so long as boost levels are equal.
Looks - Me being the owner of a Paxton powered truck. I personally think the Procharger looks better.
Reliability - Paxton right now has it just because of the sheer number of units on the road. Just plain fact on this one.
Performance - Although the Prochargers have put up some serious numbers on the dynos they have not done so on the track. Until then Paxton has this one as well.
All that being said if the Procharger kit was available when I purchased my Paxton I would have choosen the Procharger. For the same reasons you mentioned before: looks, fuel system, exclusivity, etc...
But since I didn't Paxton is the BEST!!!!!!!!!!
YellowFever - FYI there are a few guys out there running dedicated belt drives on theirs Paxtons in case you didn't know. And the Paxtons with these belt drives are very capable of producing 14-16 psi.
You can't compare the Paxton kit and Procharger kit. One is massed produced by a large company and the other is produced in very limited quanities by a small company. Which unit is best? Its all based on the individuals wants and needs.
Power - both units provide very similar numbers so long as boost levels are equal.
Looks - Me being the owner of a Paxton powered truck. I personally think the Procharger looks better.
Reliability - Paxton right now has it just because of the sheer number of units on the road. Just plain fact on this one.
Performance - Although the Prochargers have put up some serious numbers on the dynos they have not done so on the track. Until then Paxton has this one as well.
All that being said if the Procharger kit was available when I purchased my Paxton I would have choosen the Procharger. For the same reasons you mentioned before: looks, fuel system, exclusivity, etc...
But since I didn't Paxton is the BEST!!!!!!!!!!
what he said ^^^^^^^*LitemUp said:Wow, lots of hostility on this thread.
YellowFever - FYI there are a few guys out there running dedicated belt drives on theirs Paxtons in case you didn't know. And the Paxtons with these belt drives are very capable of producing 14-16 psi.
You can't compare the Paxton kit and Procharger kit. One is massed produced by a large company and the other is produced in very limited quanities by a small company. Which unit is best? Its all based on the individuals wants and needs.
Power - both units provide very similar numbers so long as boost levels are equal.
Looks - Me being the owner of a Paxton powered truck. I personally think the Procharger looks better.
Reliability - Paxton right now has it just because of the sheer number of units on the road. Just plain fact on this one.
Performance - Although the Prochargers have put up some serious numbers on the dynos they have not done so on the track. Until then Paxton has this one as well.
All that being said if the Procharger kit was available when I purchased my Paxton I would have choosen the Procharger. For the same reasons you mentioned before: looks, fuel system, exclusivity, etc...
But since I didn't Paxton is the BEST!!!!!!!!!!
I've always like the prochargers. And, like Alex, if the procharger wouldve been there when I got mine, I would have gone with the procharger. If the price was right, that is.
lord no man , def not at you , your the only guy that has common sense LOL
but I have to whine, otherwise this cheese will be dry, and besides someone broke my string to my tampon this morning and I am in a bitchy mood
the rest I jsut pay no attention too:aetsch:
yellowfever#154
Full Access Member
Wow, lots of hostility on this thread.
YellowFever - FYI there are a few guys out there running dedicated belt drives on theirs Paxtons in case you didn't know. And the Paxtons with these belt drives are very capable of producing 14-16 psi.
You can't compare the Paxton kit and Procharger kit. One is massed produced by a large company and the other is produced in very limited quanities by a small company. Which unit is best? Its all based on the individuals wants and needs.
Power - both units provide very similar numbers so long as boost levels are equal.
Looks - Me being the owner of a Paxton powered truck. I personally think the Procharger looks better.
Reliability - Paxton right now has it just because of the sheer number of units on the road. Just plain fact on this one.
Performance - Although the Prochargers have put up some serious numbers on the dynos they have not done so on the track. Until then Paxton has this one as well.
All that being said if the Procharger kit was available when I purchased my Paxton I would have choosen the Procharger. For the same reasons you mentioned before: looks, fuel system, exclusivity, etc...
But since I didn't Paxton is the BEST!!!!!!!!!!
Who builds the dedicated drive and how much $ does that add to the picture?
What power does a Paxton produce at 16 lbs?
I would prefer to buy, not necessarly from a small company, but from Justin for sure. I bought my kit about 4 months ago, he has made a slight change to improve it since and two days ago he has mailed me the updated part for no charge. Would the big company do that?
Tonkasmith
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Interested in a dedicated drive if available for sure
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