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That's the plan colt... just been bugging me. Hoping it is an easy fix... I don't have the cash to start getting into internals...
help... i'm slow!
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That's the plan colt... just been bugging me. Hoping it is an easy fix... I don't have the cash to start getting into internals...
Get it to a dyno! only way to tell what is going on from the vids you posted . the 05 seems to rev abit faster and spins abit longer in second. but hard to say .. to close to call
I noticed that aswell... assumed it was coming off of the 'cold start' cycle or something?? It idled down a bit aswell.
Tell you what, when I get home tomorrow evening I will duplicate your first video with my truck and post it up.
It's too late now.....I'll have the cops on me for sure!
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I know the 20-60 doesnt seem too far off... but the 50-70 sure does..
VID_20110326_072326.mp4 video by rockhardwatches - Photobucket
Thats a stock 05, noticeably quicker
VID_20110326_072326.mp4 video by rockhardwatches - Photobucket
Thats a stock 05, noticeably quicker
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Tell you what, when I get home tomorrow evening I will duplicate your first video with my truck and post it up.
It's too late now.....I'll have the cops on me for sure!
That would be appreciated... but with your cam you're up there in HP. Probably piss me off more with mine... but I am curious to see. With that cam is that now up to stock specs or more HP??
best thing to do is to take it to a shop, ahve them to a leak down test, a compression test, test your air fuel ratio, get a correct dyno tune for the truck, have the front end removed, tear down the front of the engine, check the cam timing, and also have the cats and 02's checked,
get all that done and it should take care of your problem
get all that done and it should take care of your problem
That's the plan colt... just been bugging me. Hoping it is an easy fix... I don't have the cash to start getting into internals...
I hear that ($$$). At least you will know what you are looking at!
Maybe your truck is not feeling well.......looking at that green banner on the wall!
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Would eliminate all the guess work here...
Oldcolt... what would it cost to diagnose over there? Wont take it anywhere here. I can handle leakdown/compression... but for the rest?
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I hear that ($$$). At least you will know what you are looking at!
Maybe your truck is not feeling well.......looking at that green banner on the wall!
low blow!!!!!!!!!! :thefinger:
A little more.
More to come.
Stink is right, there is a lot to check. We will get a base line on your truck and you can go from there.
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A little more.
More to come.
Stink is right, there is a lot to check. We will get a base line on your truck and you can go from there.
I have a feeling there were a bad batch of 06 engines not all but some. Oldcolts and mine for sure possibly yours too. When the weather is better get a few runs on the dyno if your below 410rwhp you may have a problem below 400 there is an issue for sure. I added long tubes, more boost, no cats and bbk and never made anymore power than before.
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will a good performing stock rc brake the tires loose from a roll say 10-15 mph in 1st
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I think there is an unseen issue with these motors and I have scavenged the Viper forum trying to see a common pattern with no luck. Mine has lacked power from the jump, 428 rwhp! I am totally with cam timing or fuel pump issues due to lack of filter replacement provisions. I have replaced hundreds of GM and Fird fuel filters that are clogged at 20-30k miles enough to strain the pump. I have checked mine and seems accurate,but under load questionable. Lugs with a trailer empty! Seems okay under WOT but lacks during low end of RPMs leading back towards improper cam timing or the loose sprocket deal. Possibly batch of shitty chains?
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Yes for sure!! That's what's in these vids is guys shifting 1st to 2nd and breaking tires until traction and I'd think 3rd shift would do similar?
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I think a stock truck will burn through first, halfway through second and chirp third....
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i can catch rubber from 1st to 2nd and when i get it right chirp 3rd but it won't brake them loose from a roll in good traction conditions with out using the clutch
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I've never chirped third... but take it easy shifting to 3rd and 4th gear so tough to say. As for breaking tires loose in first... like the first vid shows I just hook up. You'd assume with that much power WOT at any speed in first should break the tires IMO.
Hmm...
Not sure I can even say on a hot day, with 30 psi in the tires at a 20mph roll, that I can break them loose either by just mashing the go pedal to the floor. I just hook up and get a feeling into my seat while rowing into the next gears. Still on Pirelli's. But inflate to 40 psi, cooler temps (especially in the morning) it'll happen no problem. From a still, it's just that much easier to paint lines.
Not sure I can even say on a hot day, with 30 psi in the tires at a 20mph roll, that I can break them loose either by just mashing the go pedal to the floor. I just hook up and get a feeling into my seat while rowing into the next gears. Still on Pirelli's. But inflate to 40 psi, cooler temps (especially in the morning) it'll happen no problem. From a still, it's just that much easier to paint lines.
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I spent considerable time trying to get someone at Dodge to admit to retarding the cams in the 2006 Gen IIIs to meet emissions. Both the high ring-lands and the high bleed-down lifters are items that help reduce emissions, so these engines were struggling to meet them in the first place. Unfortunately, with an engine that ceased production 5 years ago and WAS advertised as having 500 horsepower, it is unlikely anyone at Dodge would admit to it. If the engines don't meet emissions, they can't be sold...
Especially with the high bleed down lifters, there is no quick/easy test to see if the cam IS retarded in any given Gen III engine. For example, a simple spot-check compression test is inconclusive.
Now that Burt's truck IS fixed, it is a lot easier for us to check an engine out to determine if cam timing is the issue or not.
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