The Known Universe....

Ram From Hell said:
I believe he means that it's a bit presumptive to think that we are alone (as lifeforms) in the universe.
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I tend to believe the God who made it. He might have told us if He made another. Makes me think there is no more when He says He will destroy the heavens and the earth in the end, before He creates the new heaven and earth. I believe earth has a uniqueness to it, in that its the only planet that can support life. I also believe the universe has no end. As deep as we can look, more will be there.

If the universe is infinite there are only two ways that can be.
1 God created it that way, and thats how we can see trillions of light years into space.
2 The universe always has been.

Either is daunting. Its hard for us to imagine, or believe in something with no beginning or end. Find ET, and i might have to rethink my beliefs. Until then i have faith i am correct.
 
scoobert said:
I tend to believe the God who made it. He might have told us if He made another. Makes me think there is no more when He says He will destroy the heavens and the earth in the end, before He creates the new heaven and earth. I believe earth has a uniqueness to it, in that its the only planet that can support life. I also believe the universe has no end. As deep as we can look, more will be there.

If the universe is infinite there are only two ways that can be.
1 God created it that way, and thats how we can see trillions of light years into space.
2 The universe always has been.

Either is daunting. Its hard for us to imagine, or believe in something with no beginning or end. Find ET, and i might have to rethink my beliefs. Until then i have faith i am correct.
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Maybe he doesnt want us to know about another earth....nothing in the Bible says there is or isnt another planet with life....
 
Yes Jake...as a matter of fact it is mathematically impossible that there are not millions of other places just like earth...the numbers are so huge that some theorists say it is mathematically impossible to not have places that are almost identical to earth...right down to replication of the individuals and what they are doing...

If any of you can get your mind around that concept...it is just...we don't have words for it.
 
Black1 said:
Actually... It's mathematically impossible. ;)
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Based on what, pray tell?

If we're finding evidence on comets, there's no reason to believe that any more.

Quote from NASA:

NASA scientists studying the comet samples returned by the Stardust spacecraft have discovered glycine, a fundamental building block of life. Stardust captured the samples from comet Wild 2 in 2004 and returned them to Earth in 2006. "Glycine is an amino acid used by living organisms to make proteins, and this is the first time an amino acid has been found in a comet," said Dr. Jamie Elsila of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. "Our discovery supports the theory that some of life's ingredients formed in space and were delivered to Earth long ago by meteorite and comet impacts."

I dare say that "improbable" might even be a bit pessimistic.

If the building blocks for life are scattered throughout the universe, and this planet represents what is possible, then "probable" becomes more apt to be accurate.
 
Ram From Hell said:
Based on what, pray tell?

If we're finding evidence on comets, there's no reason to believe that any more.

Quote from NASA:

NASA scientists studying the comet samples returned by the Stardust spacecraft have discovered glycine, a fundamental building block of life. Stardust captured the samples from comet Wild 2 in 2004 and returned them to Earth in 2006. "Glycine is an amino acid used by living organisms to make proteins, and this is the first time an amino acid has been found in a comet," said Dr. Jamie Elsila of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. "Our discovery supports the theory that some of life's ingredients formed in space and were delivered to Earth long ago by meteorite and comet impacts."

I dare say that "improbable" might even be a bit pessimistic.

If the building blocks for life are scattered throughout the universe, and this planet represents what is possible, then "probable" becomes more apt to be accurate.
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I took Jake to mean it was impossible that there is not life out there..
 
The problem is we are sitting here trying to analyze the cosmos with our meager human intellect and understanding. The cosmos is beyond that. GOD is beyond that. As for the other inhabited worlds, Carl Sagan explained the mathematical part of it in the 70’s. From the approximate 400 billion stars in our Milky Way Galaxy alone he deduced about 1 million other planets inhabited with technologically advanced life forms. And that’s just within one galaxy. I'll look for the actual equation..
 
Prof said:
Yes Jake...as a matter of fact it is mathematically impossible that there are not millions of other places just like earth...the numbers are so huge that some theorists say it is mathematically impossible to not have places that are almost identical to earth...right down to replication of the individuals and what they are doing...

If any of you can get your mind around that concept...it is just...we don't have words for it.
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I have no problem with any number of possibilities regarding life exisiting on other planets, galaxies or universes..... It's just so big that trying to get your head around it seems to be an exercise in futility. So why not say "why not"...?

The glorious majesty of "what we believe" is all bullshit anyway beyond the mundane world of tangibility. Once I come to a conclusion about what is in this life- life changes. And along with it, my concept of what is.

Life on other planets......? Sure.......... Whatever...... Who cares?

Great video, though....... Awesome, in fact- that we can even create a mock up of what's been studied and illustrate it on a screen...Pretty fkn cool stuff.

But, with the universe expanding at the speed of light- It doesn't even look like that video anymore....... at least on the leading edge.

What's freaky is that with the cosmos expanding at 186,000 miles per second. How come all the planets are fixed and not being carried by the enertia of that light speed at which they were traveling....:dontknow:

More acid, anyone?

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Yes Tim, if you don't mind. I'd like to drop a little just one more time...
 
The human mind wasn't "designed" to handle such gargantuan numbers, hence the reason terms and calculations such as "light years" were made up so it was easier on the human brain to fathom. To be perfectly blunt, I think you're ignorant to think we're the only ones living in the mass of a universe lol that train of thought is laughable at best. Go outside on the next clear night, every star you see at is a solar system similar to ours, with a sun (star), planets and it's own gravity pull, that's an extensive amount of planets. We definitely aren't the only ones, we are probably such back country in terms of space, who wants to come see us!! Our solar system is very new so why would an advanced civilisation come visit us?

Why haven't we seen them here? We have nothing to offer them. It'd be like someone from Beverly Hills ("them") traveling to a Botswana shanty town to check out their tin huts ("Us"). Like us, we fly over places like that but never touch down. Occasionally some random adventurer might, like them and the reason we see "UFOs" every now and then. Maybe the planets close to us (being around the same birth-dates) haven't got the technology to do so yet, like us. They're probably looking out at us asking the same questions lol. The universe is immeasurable and sooner or later we will find something. IMO, the sooner, the better. It'll change the way we think. We fight amongst ourselves like animals, it will take something outer world to unite the people on this planet and hopefully then, the small and pathetic differences they fight over will be put aside for good.



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Django said:
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What's freaky is that with the cosmos expanding at 186,000 miles per second. How come all the planets are fixed and not being carried by the enertia of that light speed at which they were traveling....:dontknow:

More acid, anyone?

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Actually, they are not... The our solar system is moving away from all of the other solar systems in the galaxy, and the galaxy is moving away from all the other galaxies...... The whole universe seems to be "expanding" away from something (hence, the idea of the "Big Bang" theory). We're not sure what causes it, or where we are going. But, we are moving... and we're moving FAST.

Also, all those plots of the places we've seen at the farthest points in space haven't been there for Billions of years (because the light that we see to plot was several-hundred BILLION years old. And, like I said, everything is moving). ;)

Crazy. :eek:
 
Black1 said:
Actually, they are not... The our solar system is moving away from all of the other solar systems in the galaxy, and the galaxy is moving away from all the other galaxies...... The whole universe seems to be "expanding" away from something (hence, the idea of the "Big Bang" theory). We're not sure what causes it, or where we are going. But, we are moving... and we're moving FAST.

Also, all those plots of the places we've seen at the farthest points in space haven't been there for Billions of years (because the light that we see to plot was several-hundred BILLION years old. And, like I said, everything is moving). ;)

Crazy. :eek:
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In other words, "none of it means DICK..."...?

Personally, I think that Apollo Ono kid's pretty fkn cute.......



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Django said:
Catch my edit.... above;)

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I did.... :D :p (It's Ohno, not "Ono" :eek: ..... Ehhh... and APOLO, not "Apollo". :D )


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The really wild thing is: If the Universe is IMPLODING, it would take several hundred billion years to reach us and rip through our particular little postage stamp-sized bit of space-time..... so, it's all really a moot point anyways. :dontknow: :D
 
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Carlwalski said:
Go outside on the next clear night, every star you see at is a solar system similar to ours, with a sun (star), planets and it's own gravity pull, that's an extensive amount of planets.
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That's not accurate. Not every star has orbiting planets, much less being a solar system like ours. Further, we've only discovered about 410 planets to date outside of our own solar system.;)


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