The Lightning Rodder Call Out Post

Scuba-Matt said:
You are Wrong.
I've been racing the Lightning for over 5 years and I can tell you colder the air the more HP the Lightning makes. Simple reason, colder denser air can be compressed more. More air in the Super charger more air in the cylinder = more HP.
If its 95 degrees and a DA of +1000 feet I'll run 10.5's If the temp is 65 and the DA is +1000 I'll run 10.2's
My engine and trans are always cooled down before every run. I use 3 fans. Clint (Chubs)on here knows, He's been out to the track plenty of times to watch me..
Don't believe me go on the Lightning forum and ask the guys what weather the run the fastest in.


That's true with any motor, but more so with FI. Heat kills!
 
Scuba-Matt said:
You are Wrong.
I've been racing the Lightning for over 5 years and I can tell you colder the air the more HP the Lightning makes. Simple reason, colder denser air can be compressed more. More air in the Super charger more air in the cylinder = more HP.
If its 95 degrees and a DA of +1000 feet I'll run 10.5's If the temp is 65 and the DA is +1000 I'll run 10.2's
My engine and trans are always cooled down before every run. I use 3 fans. Clint (Chubs)on here knows, He's been out to the track plenty of times to watch me..
Don't believe me go on the Lightning forum and ask the guys what weather they run the fastest in.

You are not reading what I wrote. I NEVER once implied that the truck would run faster in warmer air. As you said... simple issue of more oxygen dense air = more power.

So go back and read what I wrote please.

But if you take a N/A motor that is heat-soaked, it will run disproportionately slower than the forced-induction motor. Why? Because, in effect, you are creating denser air by _forcing_ it into the motor. I don't mean "colder" air... but air is air... oxygen is oxygen, and the more you can force through there, the better.

I'm not, in any way, shape, or form, trying to say that the Lightning (or anything else with an internal combustion engine) will run faster/make more power if the DA is higher. I just explained that in my stinking post, for crying out loud, when I mentioned my '99 running in the heat. But that was obviously overlooked by you.

The fact is a Ram, a Lightning, a Lambo, or a Briggs 5hp 2-stroke will make more power in cooler air. But on that same day you lose 3 tenths due to a 30^ increase in temp, the N/A motor is likely to lose 5 tenths. Everyone loses out on a crappy, hot day. The N/A motor typically loses more.
 
The only time it isn't "the other way around" for a FI motor is if it is heat-soaked really badly, especially with the more sophisticated late-model computer-controlled setups which tend to pull a ridiculous amount of timing (more than a N/A setup) to stave off potentially engine-destroying detonation. But otherwise, a properly set up FI motor (or nitrous motor) will always show less effect on it due to varying DA's.

Read this again... if you don't believe me... you are just drinking the cool-aid.

The same concept is taken into account when racing at really high altitudes. Which vehicle is less affected by the high altitude (less oxygen-dense air)? The forced induction engine. It doesn't mean it _isn't_ affected by the high altitude, but it is _less_ than a N/A engine.
 
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All ive gotta say is any lightning that thinks they have something to spank a ram then come to the PCB GTG, ive got a few high HP diesel rams that weigh well over 6K that will spank any lightning that wants to show, including Rons race diesel from Suncoast...fu*%$in stupid ass fords...
 
WA 2 FST said:
You are not reading what I wrote. I NEVER once implied that the truck would run faster in warmer air. As you said... simple issue of more oxygen dense air = more power.

So go back and read what I wrote please.

But if you take a N/A motor that is heat-soaked, it will run disproportionately slower than the forced-induction motor. Why? Because, in effect, you are creating denser air by _forcing_ it into the motor. I don't mean "colder" air... but air is air... oxygen is oxygen, and the more you can force through there, the better.

I'm not, in any way, shape, or form, trying to say that the Lightning (or anything else with an internal combustion engine) will run faster/make more power if the DA is higher. I just explained that in my stinking post, for crying out loud, when I mentioned my '99 running in the heat. But that was obviously overlooked by you.

The fact is a Ram, a Lightning, a Lambo, or a Briggs 5hp 2-stroke will make more power in cooler air. But on that same day you lose 3 tenths due to a 30^ increase in temp, the N/A motor is likely to lose 5 tenths. Everyone loses out on a crappy, hot day. The N/A motor typically loses more.
Sorry, My misread.
 
Psycho Mythic said:
All ive gotta say is any lightning that thinks they have something to spank a ram then come to the PCB GTG, ive got a few high HP diesel rams that weigh well over 6K that will spank any lightning that wants to show, including Rons race diesel from Suncoast...fu*%$in stupid ass fords...

I wouldn't have even responded to this but someone on the local racing forum posted this link today. Do you think your racing diesels can keep up with this?

:burnout:

http://www.dragzine.com/news/wide-o...sel-gen-1-lightning-running-116-psi-of-boost/
I thought it was cool and unusual. Id never seen it before.
 
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Scuba-Matt said:
Sorry, My misread.

No prob. Love your truck. My (well, now my son's) '04 is DSG. Best color, and yours is ridiculously fast too. :rock:
 
chrisheltra said:
I wouldn't have even responded to this but someone on the local racing forum posted this link today. Do you think your racing diesels can keep up with this?

:burnout:

http://www.dragzine.com/news/wide-o...sel-gen-1-lightning-running-116-psi-of-boost/
I thought it was cool and unusual. Id never seen it before.

That's a nice one. It goes too the races on a trailer. These get driven to the track, raced, and drive home. Might even pull a camper every now and then also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoOgVLQdBvQ
 

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