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[ARRESTmeRed04]

Can't wait for Jerry's build to finish. I bet you he beats Justin's 10 sec NO2 run NA and puts the NA record back where it belongs without any question. RIGHT KEN.

Wanna put a hundred on it that he doesn't?

 

[RagunCajun]

My truck is not ugly....excuse me. When I'm at the strip you really can't tell I'm not stock

The quicker someone gets the more people will say this. Think of every time someone brings weight reduction and/or parts being taken off as an accomplishment. Dont let it bother you.

You either take off weight or add more power when you are all out of tricks. With weight reduction, it reduces stress on everything else usually.

I personally dont like to see it. But i will eventually try to shed more pounds of my truck as well. I'm a hypocrite.

 

[VPRPWRD]

The quicker someone gets the more people will say this. Think of every time someone brings weight reduction and/or parts being taken off as an accomplishment. Dont let it bother you.

You either take off weight or add more power when you are all out of tricks. With weight reduction, it reduces stress on everything else usually.

I personally dont like to see it. But i will eventually try to shed more pounds of my truck as well. I'm a hypocrite.

I LOVE weight reduction. It is essentially a cost free mod. (except for time) I will finish weight reduction before I spend any more money on mods.

 

[hawk02]

You think your gonna end up keeping the truck????

 

[caveman]

The Dynapack, in my opinion, is the best dyno to do engine mapping, of course I am biased, as it was me running Jerrys truck on the dyno. Does it read higher than a Dynojet? It can, but as power measuring tool, it is very consistent, just as consistent as a Dynojet, which much better data logging resolution or precision, imho that is Dynojets biggest drawback. If you set a speed point on the Dynapack, it will hold it within + or - 5 rpm , in addition, because there is no inertia, just stick it in fourth gear, release the clutch and run it up wherever you punched in on the Dynapack keyboard. You need to hold the engine at:

608,
704,
800,
896,
992,
1152,
1344,
1600,
2016,
2336,
2784,
3136,
3616,
4160,
4896,
5408 rpm

and

15,
24,
31,
40,
53,
66,
79,
92,
105 kPa ?

If you have had the experience or opportunity of using all three of those dynos for engine mapping purposes, I imagine you would pick the Dynapack as well.

As far as doing back to back power runs, I don't mind using a Dynojet, Mustang, or Dynapack. For engine mapping, ie, when you need to hold a constant rpm and vary the load, the Dynapack is my hands down pick.

Interesting post, thanks for sharing. Sounds like the Dynapack is the best tuning tool out of the bunch.

 

[caveman]

Wanna put a hundred on it that he doesn't?

Your sprayed combo should build less HP, but more torque. Should be an interesting race.

 

[Trainman]

Wanna put a hundred on it that he doesn't?

You do realize that I asked Caveman to reserve the #3 spot for me on the list (10.73) , so yeah, I'll put a hundred on beating 10.82. Maybe not the very first pass, but soon thereafter. Here's my way of thinking.....they say 100 lbs is a tenth, and they say 10 hp is a tenth. So far the weight rule is pretty close, although the faster you get there are diminishing returns. So if I add 200 rwhp then in theory that would be 2 seconds ( now I'm at 11.63), but I really don't expect to get in the 9's, but looking at your truck, you were at 11.70's and added 175 rwhp shot and went 10.82 (.9 seconds) , so if I add 200 rwhp and improve a similar .9 seconds , that equals 10.73, so , yeah, I think it's possible. So here's my handshake, $100 that I will go at least 10.81 (SRTBrad said I would beat 10.82 NA ):rock:

 

[505'sFastestViper.]

Oh yeah!!!!


Dom
Undefeated on the Internet

 

[ARRESTmeRed04]

You do realize that I asked Caveman to reserve the #3 spot for me on the list (10.73) , so yeah, I'll put a hundred on beating 10.82. Maybe not the very first pass, but soon thereafter. Here's my way of thinking.....they say 100 lbs is a tenth, and they say 10 hp is a tenth. So far the weight rule is pretty close, although the faster you get there are diminishing returns. So if I add 200 rwhp then in theory that would be 2 seconds ( now I'm at 11.63), but I really don't expect to get in the 9's, but looking at your truck, you were at 11.70's and added 175 rwhp shot and went 10.82 (.9 seconds) , so if I add 200 rwhp and improve a similar .9 seconds , that equals 10.73, so , yeah, I think it's possible. So here's my handshake, $100 that I will go at least 10.81 (SRTBrad said I would beat 10.82 NA ):rock:

You're on, I thought it'd be a cake walk deep into the 10's(like 10.60's) by adding 200hp too untill I tried it....:chain:

 

[moparviper]

You do realize that I asked Caveman to reserve the #3 spot for me on the list (10.73) , so yeah, I'll put a hundred on beating 10.82. Maybe not the very first pass, but soon thereafter. Here's my way of thinking.....they say 100 lbs is a tenth, and they say 10 hp is a tenth. So far the weight rule is pretty close, although the faster you get there are diminishing returns. So if I add 200 rwhp then in theory that would be 2 seconds ( now I'm at 11.63), but I really don't expect to get in the 9's, but looking at your truck, you were at 11.70's and added 175 rwhp shot and went 10.82 (.9 seconds) , so if I add 200 rwhp and improve a similar .9 seconds , that equals 10.73, so , yeah, I think it's possible. So here's my handshake, $100 that I will go at least 10.81 (SRTBrad said I would beat 10.82 NA ):rock:

Thats a big iF you add 200rwhp.. I think if it could have been done NA someone would have done it by now

 

[VPRPWRD]

Thats a big iF you add 200rwhp.. I think if it could have been done NA someone would have done it by now

There are a hand full of people here with pockets deep enough to do it and even less that would actually part with that cash.

 

[caveman]

Thats a big iF you add 200rwhp.. I think if it could have been done NA someone would have done it by now

I think Trainman will meet or exceed his HP estimations. The combination has everything necessary to do it. The unknown here is the torque. I don't see his NA setup building more than the 800 ft pounds Justin is probably putting down.

 

[ARRESTmeRed04]

There are a hand full of people here with pockets deep enough to do it and even less that would actually part with that cash.

Even fewer still that can drive it well enough to get the most out of it, if it can be done jerry is the one that'll be able to do it

 

[caveman]

There are a hand full of people here with pockets deep enough to do it and even less that would actually part with that cash.

This.

It's surprising how little aftermarket Viper performance technology has crossed over to our trucks.

 

[VENOMOUS1 RACING]

I'm keeping my guess at 11.00 flat!
Now if you were to go back to 4.10 sub 11.
You're gonna need less gear I think. :burnout:
Maybe the new 33" M&H or similar:dontknow:

 

[ARRESTmeRed04]

This.

It's surprising how little aftermarket Viper performance technology has crossed over to our trucks.

Like what?

 

[Trainman]

Thats a big iF you add 200rwhp.. I think if it could have been done NA someone would have done it by now

You would have thought that the first 5-6 years I had my truck, someone would have run an 11 second NA 1/4 mile, but I was the first. I know the kind of effort it takes to make these trucks run quick. I am working with some of the best Viper people in the country. Lots of thought and planning have been going into this build, the GEN IV heads will flow at least 380 cfm (stock is about 265 cfm), the solid roller will add approx. 30 ftlbs of torque across the rpm range over the equal hydraulic roller, I am raising the compression to 11:1, lighter (but stronger )rods and pistons for quicker engine revs. Monster intake valves. Plastic intake, twin 80mm TB's. I'll probably dyno it with the slicks rather than the street tires (which could add as much as 20 rwhp). So I think we will be close, at least far above 650 rwhp (several vipers with Gen III heads and much milder cams have already been in the 640 rwhp range with Greg Good heads). I will be reporting everything I do to help everyone on this web-site who is interested.

 

[ARRESTmeRed04]

You would have thought that the first 5-6 years I had my truck, someone would have run an 11 second NA 1/4 mile, but I was the first. I know the kind of effort it takes to make these trucks run quick. I am working with some of the best Viper people in the country. Lots of thought and planning have been going into this build, the GEN IV heads will flow at least 380 cfm (stock is about 265 cfm), the solid roller will add approx. 30 ftlbs of torque across the rpm range over the equal hydraulic roller, I am raising the compression to 11:1, lighter (but stronger )rods and pistons for quicker engine revs. Monster intake valves. Plastic intake, twin 80mm TB's. I'll probably dyno it with the slicks rather than the street tires (which could add as much as 20 rwhp). So I think we will be close, at least far above 650 rwhp (several vipers with Gen III heads and much milder cams have already been in the 640 rwhp range with Greg Good heads). I will be reporting everything I do to help everyone on this web-site who is interested.

Gen 3 heads form Greg that have put down 640? Some gen 4 cars have put down just north of 600 with just bolt ons....so no telling what'll happen with the port work and cam

 

[Trainman]

I think Trainman will meet or exceed his HP estimations. The combination has everything necessary to do it. The unknown here is the torque. I don't see his NA setup building more than the 800 ft pounds Justin is probably putting down.

But remember I'm about 250-300 lbs lighter! (The truck, not me, sorry Justin).....but I am also a little lighter than Justin...at least that's what he told me.......So 300 lbs = 3 tenths!

 

[Trainman]

I'm keeping my guess at 11.00 flat!
Now if you were to go back to 4.10 sub 11.
You're gonna need less gear I think. :burnout:
Maybe the new 33" M&H or similar:dontknow:

Already planned on using the 32" tall Nostalgia M&H's. That will yield a potential top speed of 135+ @ 6,500 rpm in 4th with 4.56's. I have thought of everything, I think I'll be OK.