Discussion Regarding Roe's & Their Awesomeness

caveman said:
I have a story about that, actually. I met a little kid once that looked up at me and said, "Mr., you have a really skinny head!". I was like, "WTF"?! So I went home and asked my wife and she said I did have a kinda skinny head. I was about 28 years old that the time. 28 freaking years and nobody thought to enlighten me to this important fact about myself. I had to hear if from a random child. :dong:
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Kids are brutally honest sometimes!!:D
 
caveman said:
I have a story about that, actually. I met a little kid once that looked up at me and said, "Mr., you have a really skinny head!". I was like, "WTF"?! So I went home and asked my wife and she said I did have a kinda skinny head. I was about 28 years old that the time. 28 freaking years and nobody thought to enlighten me to this important fact about myself. I had to hear if from a random child. :dong:
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How does this pertain to the original thread? Keep your posts on point, it's the polite thing to do. :D
 
I'm sure he said shinny not skinny
 
caveman said:
I have a story about that, actually. I met a little kid once that looked up at me and said, "Mr., you have a really skinny head!". I was like, "WTF"?! So I went home and asked my wife and she said I did have a kinda skinny head. I was about 28 years old that the time. 28 freaking years and nobody thought to enlighten me to this important fact about myself. I had to hear if from a random child. :dong:
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I'm fat, don't need anyone to tell me that I'm fat, I can see it in the mirror, you must have had a circus mirror not to notice your EXCESSIVELY skinny head............. :):)
 
caveman said:
Please provide a cost breakdown of what it takes for a late model LS car or Ford product to run single digits.
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I just picked this random LS powered vehicle from ebay as a starting point:

Chevrolet Camaro SS | eBay

Then I picked the most expensive LQ4 I could find on ebay:

6 0 Liter Engine Motor Chevy Dropout LQ4 Chevy GMC 128K Drop Out LS Swap | eBay

Based on recent quotes I had to get machine work to the block done I estimated that at $3000, and that is very expensive machine work.

L92 heads:
GM Gen III IV 6 2 L76 L92 LS3 Cylinder Heads 823 | eBay

Port work on the heads:
Total Engine Airflow | CNC Ported Cylinder Heads | GM - LS3/L92 | Cylinder Head Engine 44278 | CNC Cylinder Heads Tallmadge | CNC Ported | Trick Flow | CNC Porting | CNC Head Porting | Custom Cylinder Head | Ohio | :: Total Engine Airflow ::

Rods:
LS1 LS2 LQ9 LQ4 Forged Connecting Rods Pressed 927 SBC Pin I Beam 6 100" Scat | eBay

Pistons:
Diamond Pistons and Piston Ring Kit for LQ4 LQ9 15cc Bore 4 030 370CI | eBay

I chose on off the shelf cam but for this build it would be a custom ground unit, It says call for price so lets call it an even $1000 for the cam, push rods, lifters, etc.

Cam:
Total Engine Airflow | Custom Cylinder Head Assemblies Tallmadge | Airflow Development | Custom Cylinder Head Ohio | TEA Total Engine | CNC Porting | Cylinder Heads | Cylinder Head CNC Porting | Ohio | :: Total Engine Airflow ::

Upgrade transmission:
Tick Performance Level 5 SUPER Magnum TR-6060 Conversion (900RWTQ and up) for 98-02 Camaro & Firebird - Tick Performance, Inc.

Clutch upgrade:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/m...xwzq5EsPJsSaduCLHv-OAMyPSAaB5BLPKsaAiR08P8HAQ

nitrous:
GM 98-02 F-body 78mm Plate System - GM Systems - EFI Wet Nitrous Systems

I couldn't find any concrete numbers on a rear end upgrade, so I'll pull a number out of my ass around $3500 which would include any rear suspension and rear differential upgrades.

Wheels and tires:
Pick your front runner wheel and wide rear wheel:
Weld Racing Aluma Star 2.0 788 Series Black Wheels |
Pick your front runner tire and rear slick:
http://www.summitracing.com/search/...der=Default&autoview=ProductName&keyword=Drag

I'll just pick some of the most expensive and give a random number, mainly because I've already lost interest in this project. $2000


Car $12,000
Engine $1,800
Machine work $3000 est.
L92 heads $550.00
Port work $1430.00
I beam rods $325.00
Pistons $799.99
Cam, push rods, lifters, etc. $1000
Misc. gaskets, fluids, filters, and parts I overlooked $1000
Trans. upgrades $4999.99
Clutch upgrade $752.00
Nitrous $629.99
Rear end and suspension upgrades $3500
Wheels and tires $2000
GRAND TOTAL TO RUN LOW 9S = $33786.97

DISCLAIMER: This is bench racing at its finest, a fantasy car I built in about an hour of internet research. I can't confirm this car would run that # it is purely a hypothetical example of what could be.
 
Wow. Even if you are off on the numbers, it's amazing you took the time to do this.
 
6speedquadcab said:
Wow. Even if you are off on the numbers, it's amazing you took the time to do this.
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Slow afternoon at work and I'm stuck in front of my desk, figured why the hell not.

I was also pricing a modern hemi build I'm doing, so I was visiting some of the same websites.
 
VPRPWRD said:
Slow afternoon at work and I'm stuck in front of my desk, figured why the hell not.

I was also pricing a modern hemi build I'm doing, so I was visiting some of the same websites.
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Time we'll spent I'm sure Andy. I'd do the same thing too if I could.
 
VPRPWRD said:
I just picked this random LS powered vehicle from ebay as a starting point:

Chevrolet Camaro SS | eBay

Then I picked the most expensive LQ4 I could find on ebay:

6 0 Liter Engine Motor Chevy Dropout LQ4 Chevy GMC 128K Drop Out LS Swap | eBay

Based on recent quotes I had to get machine work to the block done I estimated that at $3000, and that is very expensive machine work.

L92 heads:
GM Gen III IV 6 2 L76 L92 LS3 Cylinder Heads 823 | eBay

Port work on the heads:
Total Engine Airflow | CNC Ported Cylinder Heads | GM - LS3/L92 | Cylinder Head Engine 44278 | CNC Cylinder Heads Tallmadge | CNC Ported | Trick Flow | CNC Porting | CNC Head Porting | Custom Cylinder Head | Ohio | :: Total Engine Airflow ::

Rods:
LS1 LS2 LQ9 LQ4 Forged Connecting Rods Pressed 927 SBC Pin I Beam 6 100" Scat | eBay

Pistons:
Diamond Pistons and Piston Ring Kit for LQ4 LQ9 15cc Bore 4 030 370CI | eBay

I chose on off the shelf cam but for this build it would be a custom ground unit, It says call for price so lets call it an even $1000 for the cam, push rods, lifters, etc.

Cam:
Total Engine Airflow | Custom Cylinder Head Assemblies Tallmadge | Airflow Development | Custom Cylinder Head Ohio | TEA Total Engine | CNC Porting | Cylinder Heads | Cylinder Head CNC Porting | Ohio | :: Total Engine Airflow ::

Upgrade transmission:
Tick Performance Level 5 SUPER Magnum TR-6060 Conversion (900RWTQ and up) for 98-02 Camaro & Firebird - Tick Performance, Inc.

Clutch upgrade:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/m...xwzq5EsPJsSaduCLHv-OAMyPSAaB5BLPKsaAiR08P8HAQ

nitrous:
GM 98-02 F-body 78mm Plate System - GM Systems - EFI Wet Nitrous Systems

I couldn't find any concrete numbers on a rear end upgrade, so I'll pull a number out of my ass around $3500 which would include any rear suspension and rear differential upgrades.

Wheels and tires:
Pick your front runner wheel and wide rear wheel:
Weld Racing Aluma Star 2.0 788 Series Black Wheels |
Pick your front runner tire and rear slick:
http://www.summitracing.com/search/...der=Default&autoview=ProductName&keyword=Drag

I'll just pick some of the most expensive and give a random number, mainly because I've already lost interest in this project. $2000


Car $12,000
Engine $1,800
Machine work $3000 est.
L92 heads $550.00
Port work $1430.00
I beam rods $325.00
Pistons $799.99
Cam, push rods, lifters, etc. $1000
Misc. gaskets, fluids, filters, and parts I overlooked $1000
Trans. upgrades $4999.99
Clutch upgrade $752.00
Nitrous $629.99
Rear end and suspension upgrades $3500
Wheels and tires $2000
GRAND TOTAL TO RUN LOW 9S = $33786.97

DISCLAIMER: This is bench racing at its finest, a fantasy car I built in about an hour of internet research. I can't confirm this car would run that # it is purely a hypothetical example of what could be.
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I love bench racing numbers. That's what all the guys who don't bring their cars to the track use to compare. Very accurate stuff.

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trussman said:
I love bench racing numbers. That's what all the guys who don't bring their cars to the track use to compare. Very accurate stuff.

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difference is I actually race, you wanna throw down? Don't make me make a youtube callout video! :D
 
I have a really big head, literally, not just my big ass ego. The best line I was ever hit with was that the only heads bigger then mine are on Mt Rushmore! :D
 
Wastelands Warrior said:
And as far as the Roe s/c s go...did anyone ever have any success setting up an intercooler for one?
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Seethrough is doing an absolutely sick Roe build right now! Check his posts out for what he is doing.
 
VPRPWRD said:
difference is I actually race, you wanna throw down? Don't make me make a youtube callout video! :D
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My best track time is still quicker than yours I think. So why not. I don't have enough high school blood left in me for a youtube call out vid tho man. Sorry.

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trussman said:
My best track time is still quicker than yours I think. So why not. I don't have enough high school blood left in me for a youtube call out vid tho man. Sorry.

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That you know of....
 
trussman said:
You bust out lower than 12.51?

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No, but isn't the best part about bench racing making someone believe your car is faster than it really is?
 
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