Popped her cherry

[Geodriller]

Yours dyno'd at 410/426 Jeff?

And with just a tune I thought guys get more hp in the bottom and mid range.

stock tune yes. only run without the tune was 415/426. with all current mods.

93 oct tune gave the truck over 20 more lbs. of tq.. bumped it to 453tq... and a much smoother curve.

 

[JeffBoyette]

i just went and got the slips for 3 of my best runs and like i said i'm not a pro and i left some on the table
60- 2.28
1/8- 9.23
mph-78.8

60- 2.27
1/8- 9.09

60- 2.23
1/8- 9.14
mph- 79.78

These are dead on consistant with my times. Considering my bad weather, awful weather, we are tip for tap. When i get the dyno with the weather station corrected numbers, im sure our graphs will be spot on as well.

 

[SANTEEN]

Took the truck to the track friday night. Debated on whether or not to post. I was a little taken back by the times. I made a handful of passes. Beat 2 cobras, a corvette and a Mustang GT. The cobras were the closest, beat the driver not the car, cutting .4-.45 better reaction times than those 2 rookies but only beating by a fender, getting walked past just after the finish line. My times were pretty consistant, 4 of them varying by 2-3 hundredths. The others i ignored the light and tried to dial in the launch rpm and twice, third gear disappeared.

.009 RT
2.22 60 ft
9.33 1/8 ET
75.37 Mph

In my defense, the night showed some pretty weak times i thought for the vehicles running, but i didnt ask anyone how they were doing. I arrived at 930 pm. It was HOT, and humid. Dew was starting to form on the bed of my truck so i bet the track was a little damp ouside the groove. I ran stock tire pressure, 22, 19.5 and 18 psi. The truck spun rediculously off the line anything above 1800 RPM. Anything less it bogged and felt pig rich, growling hard off the line, but not pulling till it hit 4000 rpm. Second and third gear felt flat with a couple barely distinguishable bumps in power.

I loaded Torries 93 octane tune, and swapped the stock tune, back and forth twice within 45 minutes and the times were identical.

I raced my last truck 74 passes. I know how to drive it, and im comfortable and used to my new one. The short rolling burnouts to get the water off the street tires resulted in hard kicks to the left and right. Pretty unpredictable sometimes shaking the truck violently side to side. Caltracs seemed to be out of adjustment but i had no wrenches.

All 74 passes in my 05 were logged on a spreadsheet with the temperatures. I averaged 90.1 mph in it with 8.42 et. With a best of 1.79 60 ft and a 8.01 (planets aligned). I get these 06's are heavier on the 2500 frame, and the bed cover plus it still had the spare tire under it... and Im also seeing other RC's putting down 9.2-9.4. Its sad though, when i used to see guys posts those times, i would think to myself "That fucker cant drive"

Ive got 34k miles on the stock plugs and O2. I will be swapping these out, and doing the IAT resistor mod to see if it fixes the heat sink issue. I will get catless mids to replace the bellanger HFC. Take it to a dyno and take its vitals. Dialing in these caltracs, maybe removing the spare tire may help me a little on these times. I dont intend on racing this truck like i did the last. I just wanted to see what it would do. Without serious dough, i dont think this truck will be as fast as my 05, but its sure looks a hell of alot sexier. This could be one of the retarded cam 06's but im with Geodriller in saying $5,000 is a little much to figure out if it is. It still beat some rivals, and looked damn good doing it.

I could be wrong, but I thought that only the QC's had the 2500 frame?

 

[JeffBoyette]

I could be wrong, but I thought that only the QC's had the 2500 frame?

Well, i thought the same. Then i posted it the other day in a thread. Id love to get to the bottom of it. It looks the same under there to me.

Im sure hoping this truck is heavier, alot heavier.... but i dont think the bed cover and spare tire make all that weight.

 

[evanandretti]

What gains would there to pull off cover and maybe even the tail gate.

 

[Psycho1122]

Gentlemen;

Keep in mind that BOTH the stock tune and Torries plug in tune will be rich up top. We are talking around 11:1 A/F or richer. This is done intentionally to be on the safe side of detonation. We do not have a tight, efficient combustion chamber and compression is a tad high for that environment.

I was able to confirm this by using the AEM wideband from Stinker. I worked directly with Torrie over the Memorial Day weekend to dial in the tune. I provided him environmental conditions and Guage readout. It took three early am runs on the road running 4th. gear. Conditions all similar. Results were conciderably improved!!

Drag racing in HOT, humid weather does not help. Things just get richer.

Here are the Sea Level conversions you were looking for.....

Time X .9761
Speed X 1.022

Your best E.T. corrected is: 9.10
Your best Speed corrected is: 77.028

Get the tune dialed in, fresh plugs (OEM) and final exhaust choice will help.

Good Luck!:rock:

Cheers!

 

[Geodriller]

What gains would there to pull off cover and maybe even the tail gate.

i could be wrong but i think the tonnoue and wing are aroumd 100lbs. And the tailgate is like 63 and the tire is almost 50. and i believe, could be wrong, that fpr evry 100 lbs u loose u also.looose. 1 et. But could be wrong

Gentlemen;

Keep in mind that BOTH the stock tune and Torries plug in tune will be rich up top. We are talking around 11:1 A/F or richer. This is done intentionally to be on the safe side of detonation. We do not have a tight, efficient combustion chamber and compression is a tad high for that environment.

I was able to confirm this by using the AEM wideband from Stinker. I worked directly with Torrie over the Memorial Day weekend to dial in the tune. I provided him environmental conditions and Guage readout. It took three early am runs on the road running 4th. gear. Conditions all similar. Results were conciderably improved!!

Drag racing in HOT, humid weather does not help. Things just get richer.

Here are the Sea Level conversions you were looking for.....

Time X .9761
Speed X 1.022

Your best E.T. corrected is: 9.10
Your best Speed corrected is: 77.028

Get the tune dialed in, fresh plugs (OEM) and final exhaust choice will help.

Good Luck!:rock:

Cheers!

what do u mean final exhaust choice?

 

[JeffBoyette]

I put my 200 lb friend in the passenger seat and there was no difference in times. If i removed 200 lb from over the rear tire, id be lucky to maintain the same time due to traction loss. I think the 100lb for .1 is for 1/4 mile.

What he meant by exhaust, is im going to put 3 inch mandrel catless mids on it with electronic cutouts.

 

[Troy's QC SRT]

The caltracs installed will help wheel hop....as far as getting them dialed in....that only means that your adjusting them until the truck pulls straight...... not much more to it really.

I think those times are pretty weak myself but as alot has said the heat does affect alot....Have you corrected those times using a DA corrector? With your mods i would assume it would run alot better considering everything was working right. Swap those plugs out and work with Torrie....before you make tune adjustments you have to have it running right...like replacing the plugs and whatever else you want to mess with

 

[VENOMOUS1 RACING]

Just a comparo my QC with 6 speed and street tires was 13.4@104 around 8.8 @83 1/8 miles with an average 2.2 60ft. This is in 97* heat at 10PM in the evening with around 45% humidity at a DA of 3600 ft.

 

[Geodriller]

Gotcha on the exhaust. And i hear u on the weight. Disnt think of.it like that but it makes sence. Troy and scotts remarks dont make.me feel very good tho.to be honest.

Now i just feel like a dick for selling u thw truck.

 

[VENOMOUS1 RACING]

Gotcha on the exhaust. And i hear u on the weight. Disnt think of.it like that but it makes sence. Troy and scotts remarks dont make.me feel very good tho.to be honest.

Now i just feel like a dick for selling u thw truck.

Again, I wonder about this Cam retardation issue? Somethin just don't seem right. Have yall changed the plugs and wires?

 

[SANTEEN]

Gentlemen;

Keep in mind that BOTH the stock tune and Torries plug in tune will be rich up top. We are talking around 11:1 A/F or richer. This is done intentionally to be on the safe side of detonation. We do not have a tight, efficient combustion chamber and compression is a tad high for that environment.

I was able to confirm this by using the AEM wideband from Stinker. I worked directly with Torrie over the Memorial Day weekend to dial in the tune. I provided him environmental conditions and Guage readout. It took three early am runs on the road running 4th. gear. Conditions all similar. Results were conciderably improved!!

Drag racing in HOT, humid weather does not help. Things just get richer.

Here are the Sea Level conversions you were looking for.....

Time X .9761
Speed X 1.022

Your best E.T. corrected is: 9.10
Your best Speed corrected is: 77.028

Get the tune dialed in, fresh plugs (OEM) and final exhaust choice will help.

Good Luck!:rock:

Cheers!

It's not Torries tune giving you those A/F numbers. Torries tune puts you right at 12.5 - 12.7 at WOT, on an N/A truck. Now, if it's FI or NOS, then yeah, he'll keep you on the fat side. But there's no reason for his N/A tune to be that rich and normally it's not.

 

[THEDAV]

Again, I wonder about this Cam retardation issue? Somethin just don't seem right. Have yall changed the plugs and wires?

Is this cam issue only in the 06's???? How would I know if my truck has this issue?

 

[JeffBoyette]

Gotcha on the exhaust. And i hear u on the weight. Disnt think of.it like that but it makes sence. Troy and scotts remarks dont make.me feel very good tho.to be honest.

Now i just feel like a dick for selling u thw truck.

Bah STFU. I knew the truck had a little dick when i got it. But it looked purdy and i wasnt planning on spending much time at the track. its still win win.

Again, I wonder about this Cam retardation issue? Somethin just don't seem right. Have yall changed the plugs and wires?

Plugs go in this sunday. Dont think im going to mess with the wires/coils with this few miles. Its a PITA to remove the intake to get to it, and im not patient enough to try it without removing.

It's not Torries tune giving you those A/F numbers. Torries tune puts you right at 12.5 - 12.7 at WOT, on an N/A truck. Now, if it's FI or NOS, then yeah, he'll keep you on the fat side. But there's no reason for his N/A tune to be that rich and normally it's not.

Truck sounds rich, smells rich (even with HFC), feels rich, and is smutting up the tips after 20-30 miles.

Is this cam issue only in the 06's???? How would I know if my truck has this issue?

Its just speculation atm. There were a few 06's that put down some weak numbers, even with heavy mods, and no matter how aggressive the tune, little to no improvement in power.

With the high bleed hydraulic lifters it would be hard to degree the cam at TDC and verify whether it was ground off a few degrees to pass emissions or whatever.

It seams the only way to verify this being the issue, with the amount of time effort and money involved to diagnose it, is to go ahead and swap out the cam with a performance one. $5,000+

 

[SANTEEN]

You need to either get an A/F gauge on there, or get it on a dyno with a wideband. Your A/F should be around 12.5 at WOT, with Torries tune.

 

[rbabody]

I would look at live data when warm to see were everything is at. second you said that you went though the water at the box with street tires big no no the water that is left in the tread when siting at the light runs to the bottom. Do dry burps it will help in launching.

 

[JeffBoyette]

I would look at live data when warm to see were everything is at. second you said that you went though the water at the box with street tires big no no the water that is left in the tread when siting at the light runs to the bottom. Do dry burps it will help in launching.

Man I totally agree. This isn't my first rodeo though. Street tires don't get sticky. You sling water out the tread on the rears but the front still drag it through the line. Unfortunately my home track you have to drive through a trench that holds the water. Can't get around it. And I'm used to this. I approach at a slight angle then get straight on the line to keep from driving over the front wet tire marks on the launch.

But I also noted making almost 75 passes in this home track with my last truck, was dead consistant and still faster.

 

[viperhauler]

everyone's tactic for racing is slightly different...

i've noticed no difference in going through the water box vs. going around it... of course... i heat up street tires and there's no question that, IMO it's better...

now... i don't care if i waste tires...

so there's a difference in glazing the tires or making them sticky...

this is with my experiences at tracks that i'm familiar with, and i do the same thing at tracks i'm not familiar with...

BUT... with all these miles, i'm a little consistent with the truck in general

 

[evanandretti]

Jeff your tips get nice and black after driving a couple miles?