Non-Stocker Camshaft?

[Bone]

Several of the vendors here can get OEM gasket sets. Try Dragon, JMBJustin or Boomer.

Thanks, my boy Patrick has always come thru for me. Actually have an order in place. I'll tag it on.

 

[ViperTruck2933]

Thanks, my boy Patrick has always come thru for me. Actually have an order in place. I'll tag it on.

No Problem, Bro. Let us know how you like the cam. :rock:

 

[mmmmtorque]

Where did you get the gasket kit?

Does Boomer or any of the vendors have the cam before I get it at Summit? However, Summit is up the street from me too.

I got mine through my dealership but you can find it through several vendors here Dont pay more than $270.00 I know the dealerships used to have them mis tagged in their database for $375.00. I made some calls and they should have it right now.

 

[HaulinAsp]

There have been no issues with valve, piston clearances or spring pinch.

Thank you, I thought my question was forgotten there. LOL

 

[DC Performance]

The Mopar Cam works better than the Comp Cam, more intake duration. Both are improvements over stock. The most important thing is getting the intake centerline correct.

 

[Bone]

The Mopar Cam works better than the Comp Cam, more intake duration. Both are improvements over stock. The most important thing is getting the intake centerline correct.

I thought the Mopar Cam gets 6-8HP and the Comp Cam around 25HP?:dontknow:

 

[HaulinAsp]

The Mopar Cam works better than the Comp Cam, more intake duration. Both are improvements over stock. The most important thing is getting the intake centerline correct.

Please explain this comment? 6-8 hp is better than 25 hp???:dontknow:

 

[Silverback]

Please explain this comment? 6-8 hp is better than 25 hp???:dontknow:

Two ways of looking at it. Claimed HP vs actual HP gained. Or it could be related to usable HP. Lot's of dyno queens out there that can't get out of their own way. You can actually show a HP gain on the dyno and be slower on the track.

 

[Bone]

Two ways of looking at it. Claimed HP vs actual HP gained. Or it could be related to usable HP. Lot's of dyno queens out there that can't get out of their own way. You can actually show a HP gain on the dyno and be slower on the track.

I agree, however, the claims of the Mopar are 6-8 from various sites, and mmmmtorque has a dyno of about 25HP.

Please explain this comment? 6-8 hp is better than 25 hp???

DC said the Mopar cam works better (and in general terms I would assume HP). So the claim of 6-8HP cam is better than the Comp Cams where we have a dyno of 25 HP.

Is anyone running these cams with a SC?

 

[Bone]

Has anyone done the install themself? Did you remove the Heads? Pushrods? Charge the chamber with compressed air?

This is the removal in the Chrysler manual and it does say to remove the heads then to remove the lifters. So maybe you need the heads off to get to the lifters.

REMOVAL

1 - CAMSHAFT

2 - THRUST PLATE

3 - BOLT(S)




Perform the fuel pressure relief procedure (Refer to 14 - FUEL SYSTEM/FUEL DELIVERY - STANDARD PROCEDURE).
Disconnect the negative battery cable.
Raise and support the vehicle.
Remove the front engine shield.
Drain the cooling system
Drain the power steering fluid.
Remove the oil pan (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/LUBRICATION/OIL PAN - REMOVAL).
Lower the vehicle.
Remove the radiator and radiator fan assembly (Refer to 7 - COOLING/ENGINE/RADIATOR - REMOVAL).
Remove intake manifold (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/MANIFOLDS/INTAKE MANIFOLD - REMOVAL).
Remove cylinder head covers (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/CYLINDER HEAD/CYLINDER HEAD COVER(S) - REMOVAL).
Remove timing chain cover (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/VALVE TIMING/TIMING CHAIN COVER - REMOVAL).
Remove rocker arm assemblies.
NOTE: Identify each push rod to be replaced in its original location.

Remove push rods.
Remove cylinder heads (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/CYLINDER HEAD - REMOVAL).
Remove hydraulic tappets (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/ENGINE BLOCK/HYDRAULIC TAPPETS - REMOVAL).
Remove timing chain and camshaft sprocket (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/VALVE TIMING/TIMING CHAIN AND SPROCKETS - REMOVAL).
Remove camshaft thrust plate (2) (Camshaft and Thrust Plate).
Slowly remove camshaft (1). Use care not to damage camshaft bearing surfaces with the cam lobes(Camshaft and Thrust Plate).

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

Bone per Gary , you should be able to remove the rocker arms, and allthe garbage up front , spin the cam and push all the lifters up in the galley and remove and replace the cam.

And Bone It would be advisable to get a cam cut specifically for the blower or FI application. These cams work well, but as in a turbo truck you need tons of exhaust, as well a SC"r needs a specific grind.

Not saying it willnot work , Blakes is working fine, but, you get better performance by talking with a cam grinder about your specific application.

I suggest you call comp cams and talk with them on this in theri tech department, they will be real helpful and be able to explain it tons better.

 

[Silverback]

Bone per Gary , you should be able to remove the rocker arms, and allthe garbage up front , spin the cam and push all the lifters up in the galley and remove and replace the cam.

And Bone It would be advisable to get a cam cut specifically for the blower or FI application. These cams work well, but as in a turbo truck you need tons of exhaust, as well a SC"r needs a specific grind.

Not saying it willnot work , Blakes is working fine, but, you get better performance by talking with a cam grinder about your specific application.

I suggest you call comp cams and talk with them on this in theri tech department, they will be real helpful and be able to explain it tons better.

Stinker is right on, on this one. For N/A engines you increase the overlap to help out on the scavanging effect which draws more of the Air/Fuel mixture in. With a forced induction engine you do not want this much overlap as the F/I system is forcing the A/F mixture in.

 

[Bone]

Bone per Gary , you should be able to remove the rocker arms, and allthe garbage up front , spin the cam and push all the lifters up in the galley and remove and replace the cam.

And Bone It would be advisable to get a cam cut specifically for the blower or FI application. These cams work well, but as in a turbo truck you need tons of exhaust, as well a SC"r needs a specific grind.

Not saying it willnot work , Blakes is working fine, but, you get better performance by talking with a cam grinder about your specific application.

I suggest you call comp cams and talk with them on this in theri tech department, they will be real helpful and be able to explain it tons better.

Thanks. Been trying to....their phone is busy. People must have gotten mod money over the holidays!

Another question: Anyone been able to swap out their pistons without pulling the engine?

 

[Silverback]

Thanks. Been trying to....their phone is busy. People must have gotten mod money over the holidays!

Another question: Anyone been able to swap out their pistons without pulling the engine?

If you swap pistons you need new rings. New rings mean the cylinders need to be honed. It can be done in the truck, but not worth it in my opinion. To great of a risk that you will not get everything clean and then you are rebuilding the engine anyway.

 

[Bone]

Just got off the phone with Comp Cams.
Tech said they had two current grinds for a Viper 264 and 270. Recommended the 264 specs over the 270 for our truck. Also, that it would work well with a SC with 6-8psi of boost, and actually get better percentage numbers. 10-12% performance increase without force induction (SC) and about 18-20% better numbers with the forced induction around 6-8 psi. Mentioned the Mopar Performance cam and he new about it right away. Said their cam is definitely more aggressive and some tuning may be required. I told him I could modify fuel and timing with the VEC and he said that would be applicable.

Soooo, being a Modoholic I ordered it and they will grind it for me tomorrow with similar specs to the Dodge V10 Viper Xtreme Energy XR264HR Cam price $560.47 (not what they list on the website. Also, the Summit part number is different. We want part number 111-310-10 (264).

http://www.compperformancegroupstor...creen=CTGY&Store_Code=CC&Category_Code=97-CAM

I also talked about their Hemi cams where they have one for a 61HP increase over stock. I have the 6.1 cam installed where it got me 26 HP to the wheels. He said once again, tuning would be required of their most aggressive cam. Told him the Hemi computer hasn't been cracked well enough yet.

Thanks all for the help.

Patrick, yes, send me the gasket kit now. lol

 

[dragon]

cool man just want to make sure you get what you want in that beast.

 

[JTS VENOM PERFORMANCE]

Sweet Bone aint ya glad ya called?LOLOL

btw got us a deal on rear axles bro, sounds like you gonna need one

 

[Bone]

cool man just want to make sure you get what you want in that beast.

I don't think I can fit 69 Playboy bunnies in the truck, but I am willing to try.

 

[Bone]

Sweet Bone aint ya glad ya called?LOLOL

Yeah, I'm easy on the phone, especially 976-BABE.

 

[dragon]

I don't think I can fit 69 Playboy bunnies in the truck, but I am willing to try.

how about 39 in yours and 30 in mine? i think its worth a try. :rock: