Weight Reduction (List)

[TNVIPER]

Shouldn't it be more weight transfer instead of weight reduction? I think moving as much weight as you can back in the rear will see times in these drop BIG time. Heck, look at the QCs......heaps of weight and they're faster than the RCs (overall). Not sure what can be done short of putting 200kgs worth of concrete back there but, there must be some tricks, surely.

I think you have that backwards Carl...QCs are generally about .5 seconds slower when comparing two stock trucks or 2 with equal mods and equal driver ability.........less weight means lower ets...........but I do agree with weight transfer...

 

[Carlwalski]

I think you have that backwards Carl...QCs are generally about .5 seconds slower when comparing two stock trucks or 2 with equal mods and equal driver ability.........less weight means lower ets...........but I do agree with weight transfer...

Disagree, look at the times of the trucks. I said "overall", maybe not quite the right word but RCs struggle to hit 12s lol. QCs seem to do mid/high 12s and there are more of them in the 11s, not to mention the 10.73 run - traction. Less weight will always mean faster ET but you have to have traction to do so.

 

[robjon96]

do they make light weight doors for our trucks? the doors seem very heavy compared to others maybe? or i am just babbling

 

[TNVIPER]

Disagree, look at the times of the trucks. I said "overall", maybe not quite the right word but RCs struggle to hit 12s lol. QCs seem to do mid/high 12s and there are more of them in the 11s, not to mention the 10.73 run - traction. Less weight will always mean faster ET but you have to have traction to do so.

Got to look at the mods Carl....those 11 & 10 second QCs are heavily modded....Now I will agree the RCs are struggling...reason being the the stick is hard to launch...you rarely see a stick in bracket racing here because it is hard to be consistant....but put somebody like Trainman behind a stick and he will make quick work of the auto guys..

 

[OSO]

The problem with shifting the guys with the reg cab srts have is what kept me from putting a manual in mine. I am a firm believer that the reg cab srt is a 12 sec truck off the show room floor with the right driver.

Would you guys care to see some of the times for the Hemi trucks? I will just put it up so you don't have to answer, Dont hit me!!:ahhhhh:


11 Second Club

11.29 @ 116 -2005 RCSB 4x4 6.4L 392" Blower-Hemidup
11.46 @ 120.89 -2003 RCSB 4x2 6.1L 370" n2o- WBW2
11.87 @ 111 – 2005 RCSB 4X2 5.7L N20(100 SHOT)-DAYTONA81
11.94 @ 111.41 -2004 RCSB 4x2 5.7L Turbo- ColtSteele


12 Second Club

12.06 @ 110.68 -2003 RCSB 4x2 5.7L 370" N/A- WBW2
12.25 @ 106.9 -2004 RCSB 4x2 5.7L 383" N/A- 383HEMI
12.34 @ 108.66 -2004 RCSB 4x2 5.7L n2o- Gary's Hemi
12.40 @ 111.00 -2003 RCSB 4x2 5.7L n20- Quick03
12.42 @ 108.73 -2003 RCSB 4x2 6.4L 392" Turbo- Darell_n
12.62 @ 103.69 -2006 RCSB 4X2 5.7L N/A- crazeejay
12.69 @ 104.13 -2004 RCSB 4x4 5.7L 392"- Fastgraphite04
12.70 @ 105.50 -2003 RCSB 4x2 5.7L n2o- hemicoon24
12.74 @ 105.10 -2003 RCSB 4x2 5.7L 370" N/A- Quick03
12.79 @ 104.61 -2004 RCSB 4x2 5.7L n2o- CDRUMBLEBEE
12.86 @ 103.44 -2003 RCSB 4x2 5.7L 370" N/A- HEMI450HP
12.88 @ 106.79 -2006 RCSB 4X2 6.1L 392" N/A- W/22s@5400lbs ONE SHORT OF
12.90 @ 103.50 -2005 RCSB 4x2 5.7L n2o- LS-WHAT?
12.92 @ 102.98 -2004 QCSB 4x4 5.7L n2o- Kfed
12.98 @ 102.43 -2004 RCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- proudhemi
12.98 @ 100.71 -2005 QCSB 4x2 5.7L n2o- 05whitehemi
12.99 @ 104.93 -2004 RCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- DLine


13 Second Club

13.08 @ 102.93 -2004 SCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- rdhemi345
13.10 @ 103.03- 2005 QCSB 4X2 5.7L N/A - chefred112
13.12 @ 100.9 -2004 SCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- Gary's Hemi
13.13 @ 103.28 - 2005 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- steelhorse5778
13.19 @ 102.65 - 2005 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A-05whitehemi
13.28 @ 103.43 - 2006 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- 06Ramhemi
13.31 @ 98.19 -2006 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- Randtx
13.39 @ 101.00 -2005 RCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- zemog255
13.42 @ 98.00 -2004 RCSB 4x4 6.1L 392"- 400rwhphemi
13.47 @ 96.28 -2005 QCSB 4x4 5.7L n2o- Mikes05THUNDER
13.50 @ 100.05 -2005 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- 05whitehemi
13.52 @ 97.61 -2004 RCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- fastgraphite04
13.53 @ 98.00 -2005 RCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- utfan4lyf24
13.56 @ 96.50 -2003 RCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- hemicoon24
13.58 @ 100.00 -2004 RCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- CDRUMBLEBEE
13.70 @ 97.00 -2004 RCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- 400rwhphemi
13.75 @ 98.39 -2004 RCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- AtumAnt
13.76 @ 99.00 -2005 RCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- LS-WHAT?
13.78 @ 97.16 -2003 RCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- Ramhemi03
13.80 @ 95.94 -2007 QCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- 07whiteram
13.82 @ 97.53 -2006 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- Kidat46
13.82 @ 99.9 -2005 4x4 RCSB n20 125 - BnB4Ever
13.87 @ 97.77 -2004 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- dayton hemi
13.93 @ 97.38 -2005 RCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- spedly


14 Second Club

14.19 @ 95.26 -2004 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- HemiRamOn22s
14.20 @ 92.00 -2005 QCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- Mikes05THUNDER
14.22 @ 94.00 -2003 RCSB 2x2 5.7L N/A- 1hemiracer
14.36 @ 95.47 -2004 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- KB112
14.49 @ 89.66 -2005 QCSB 4x4 5.7L n20- tazman66
14.50 @ 95.33 -2005 QCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- AER_DAVID@BELLS
14.52 @ 92.50 -2007 RCLB 4x2 5.7L N/A- Poison Heart
14.57 @ 92.21 -2004 QCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- nickd907
14.66 @ 91.63 -2004 RCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- Prism
14.78 @ 91.61 -2003 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- WhiteLightnin20
14.79 @ 92.90 -2004 RCSB 4x2 4.7L N/A- adamsredlines
14.89 @ 89. -2005 RCSB 4X4 5.7L N/A- Palmentech766
14.95 @ 90.41 -2002 RCSB 4x2 4.7L N/A- BIGBAD4.7
14.99 @ 89.29 -2002 QCSB 4x2 4.7L N/A- AIR_RAM


15 Second Club

15.00 @ 90.75 -2004 QCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- RAMbo26
15.08 @ 89.75 -2004 RCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- hemi1569
15.11 @ 88.05 -2002 RCSB 4x2 4.7L N/A-Jack Arse
15.20 @ 88.92 -2007 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- Guam_Guy
15.28 @ 92.64 -2003 QCSB 4x2 5.7L 2500 N/A- dean0621
15.29 @ 87.60 -2007 QCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- 07whiteram
15.32 @ 88.00 -2007 QCSB 4x2 5.7 N/A- itsgotahemi
15.44 @ 87.04 -2004 QCSB 4x2 5.7L N/A- DodgeHemi345
15.58 @ 88.04 -2007 QCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- sportfan
15.89 @ 85.54 -2006 QCSB 4x4 5.7L N/A- Mikee'sRam



Diesel Rams

11.42 @ 119.40 -1996 Dodge CTD 5.9- 96 Red Ram
12.60 @107.85 - 2005 QC 3500 5.9L - feo47
13.42 @ 102 -2004 QC 2500 5.9L- gitchesum
14.10 @ 95.90 -2006 QC 2500 5.9L- RAJ
14.29 @ 96 -2007 QC 2500 5.9L- fsu123187
15.13 @ 88.70 -2007 QC 2500 5.9L- jhart1
15.16 @ 89.06 -2005 QC Dually 5.9L- Ram3500Dually
15.21 @ 88.71 -2008 QC Dually 6.7L- Ram3500Dually
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[razorbackfan]

You guys are going to be rolling around looking like this before long.

 

[FATJACK]

Those hemi boys sure know how to fuck up a thread.

 

[Ironhead]

jack i know a super fast way to loose almost 275 lbs out of your truck with no hard work involved,,,


GET YOUR FAT ASS OUT OF THE TRUCK BAM instant lbs gone

 

[Carlwalski]

Got to look at the mods Carl....those 11 & 10 second QCs are heavily modded....Now I will agree the RCs are struggling...reason being the the stick is hard to launch...you rarely see a stick in bracket racing here because it is hard to be consistant....but put somebody like Trainman behind a stick and he will make quick work of the auto guys..

Touche. However, look at the guys with moderate N/A mods on RCs (even SCs) they still struggle to hit mid 12s, the average driver (even Trainman occasionally) can't be consistent in these trucks, too much bounce and often unpredictable off the line. In the real world, on the street (light to light) I feel the quad cab is the better weapon from the dig. In the twisties and from a roll, the RCs have it easily. "Hopefully" with my auto conversion I'll have the best of both worlds + looks that I love, consistent potency and still cruise material.

 

[TNVIPER]

Touche. However, look at the guys with moderate N/A mods on RCs (even SCs) they still struggle to hit mid 12s, the average driver (even Trainman occasionally) can't be consistent in these trucks, too much bounce and often unpredictable off the line. In the real world, on the street (light to light) I feel the quad cab is the better weapon from the dig. In the twisties and from a roll, the RCs have it easily. "Hopefully" with my auto conversion I'll have the best of both worlds + looks that I love, consistent potency and still cruise material.

I believe I see what you really mean Carl....it's not the QC beating the RC...it's the auto beating the stick.. ...........I do agree wit dat....one reason I am watching your auto mod thread with interest....while the stick is fun to drive I would rather have an auto for the most part...and I bet my truck maybe be even a little quicker...defenitely more consistant..

 

[SRT-IZ]

I put down a 13.1 on my completly stoc RC in Bakersfield. That run was my second run EVER! My first run i did a 17 but thats because that was my first ever on the strip and did not know what to do. As you can tell, im a quick learner! You can deffinetly get a RC into the 12s off the show room.:rock:

 

[Carlwalski]

I believe I see what you really mean Carl....it's not the QC beating the RC...it's the auto beating the stick.. ...........I do agree wit dat....one reason I am watching your auto mod thread with interest....while the stick is fun to drive I would rather have an auto for the most part...and I bet my truck maybe be even a little quicker...defenitely more consistant..

Kind of what I mean but not really lol. I think a manual when both trucks are stock or warmish, will always post the best time. But, in terms of posting that time 10/10 times, no. If they lined up 10 times the RC will post the fastest time (usually) but the QC would probably take out the majority of those 10 races due to consistency. Then take big power adders and an auto becomes even more of a weapon.

The QCs weight helps it's launch, no question. Not a slingshot of a punch from a dig like RC and not as potent as dumping the clutch but it's potent enough to launch hard but not so hard it loses massive traction or worse, bogs. Sure you can hit it good occasionally, but not everytime and in the real world where most of our trucks are driven, that usually means losing out to brand x at the lights.

Looking at those 1/4 times from the Super Bee Rams, those are quite quick.
Wonder how a stock one would go against our trucks? (RC or QC). :dontknow:

 

[OSO]

Kind of what I mean but not really lol. I think a manual when both trucks are stock or warmish, will always post the best time. But, in terms of posting that time 10/10 times, no. If they lined up 10 times the

Looking at those 1/4 times from the Super Bee Rams, those are quite quick.
Wonder how a stock one would go against our trucks? (RC or QC). :dontknow:

The SB = short wheel base, all Hemi trucks were created equal. But to answer your question Stock for stock Srt should win.

Those hemi boys sure know how to fuck up a thread.

I agree!

 

[TNVIPER]

Kind of what I mean but not really lol. I think a manual when both trucks are stock or warmish, will always post the best time. But, in terms of posting that time 10/10 times, no. If they lined up 10 times the RC will post the fastest time (usually) but the QC would probably take out the majority of those 10 races due to consistency. Then take big power adders and an auto becomes even more of a weapon.

The QCs weight helps it's launch, no question. Not a slingshot of a punch from a dig like RC and not as potent as dumping the clutch but it's potent enough to launch hard but not so hard it loses massive traction or worse, bogs. Sure you can hit it good occasionally, but not everytime and in the real world where most of our trucks are driven, that usually means losing out to brand x at the lights.

Looking at those 1/4 times from the Super Bee Rams, those are quite quick.
Wonder how a stock one would go against our trucks? (RC or QC). :dontknow:

The RC Hemi trucks (pre 2009) are high 14s/low 15 second trucks stock...the Bees are just looks and no different power wise from a Ram hemi.....they are no match for a SRT10 QC and especially not a RC....providing the drivers are capable...........

 

[razorbackfan]

I had an '04 Hemi truck and it didn't come close to the acceleration that I feel with the SRT. Now track times I don't know. I had my '04 at the track but it was an 1/8 and the timing system wasn't working. But I did hang with my '92 vette w/ LT1 auto. I figure that was in the 14's. I had my brother running the HEMI. He beat an L98 vette. I haven't had my SRT to the track yet. The track I go too is only 500' now so I don't know what that converts too. It's hard to find a 1/4 track around here.

 

[OSO]

I had an '04 Hemi truck and it didn't come close to the acceleration that I feel with the SRT. Now track times I don't know. I had my '04 at the track but it was an 1/8 and the timing system wasn't working. But I did hang with my '92 vette w/ LT1 auto. I figure that was in the 14's. I had my brother running the HEMI. He beat an L98 vette. I haven't had my SRT to the track yet. The track I go too is only 500' now so I don't know what that converts too. It's hard to find a 1/4 track around here.

There is no doubt the Hemi truck is dog slow off the lot but since its just a basic truck most guys that go to the track will not hesitate to unbolt or cut anything they can to make it lighter.

 

[FATJACK]

What happened to the weight reduction thread???

 

[TNVIPER]

What happened to the weight reduction thread???

I order to save weight it was replaced by a lighter thread that has nothing to do with weight....

 

[moparracing]

What happened to the weight reduction thread???

fatjack is interested in weight reduction..........

 

[ARRESTmeRed04]

anyone have links to the fiberglass fenders?? all i could turn up on google were the ones with big flares for baja type trucks or ones with vents in the side:dontknow: